I made the switch to Anarcho-capitalism....what a trip!

[AlexAmore]

I've even debated on this topic within these forums from the Minarchist position!

What did it for me? I started listening to Stefan Molyneux and I had seen a few Larken Rose videos. At first I'd only watch one of their videos when it was linked and relevant to a certain forum topic around here. Eventually, I started digging through their Youtube channels at which point it was only a matter of time.

I think one of the big points that convinced me to switch, thanks to Stefan, is that small governments end up as the most destructive governments because they can leverage the free markets and all it's technological advancements. Also, his points on why foreign invasions are unlikely were quite persuasive.

 

[Ronin Truth]

Oh no, not another An-Cap junkie. That's how it starts. Next thing you know you'll be mainlining Rothbard's Power and Market.

Here's your next fix. http://mises.org/books/powermarket.pdf

 

[Petar]

I swear, you people are part of some concerted effort to influence all of us into giving up all political relevancy...

 

[erowe1]

I swear, you people are part of some concerted effort to influence all of us into giving up all political relevancy...

Drawing millions of people from a conservative starting point over to being full-fledged enemies of the state will end up being by far the greatest legacy Ron Paul will leave.

 

[Petar]

Drawing millions of people from a conservative starting point over to being full-fledged enemies of the state will end up being by far the greatest legacy Ron Paul will leave.

Yeah right, you're all a bunch of delusional ideologues.

May as well shave your heads and become Hare Krishna's...

A society with no government just isn't real.

 

[AlexAmore]

I swear, you people are part of some concerted effort to influence all of us into giving up all political relevancy...

Not quite.

Unlike some other An-caps, I'll be promoting Rand Paul and I think it's advantageous to the An-cap cause. People don't go 0-100 instantly. There's a funnel, and the starting point is typically Libertarian-Conservatism > Libertarianism > An-cap.

If you look at info-product businesses or Home Shopping Network, they draw you in with a small purchase (small hoops to jump through) and then they up-sell you later. This is a proven system over and over again. We need to adopt this idea.

 

[Petar]

Not quite.

Unlike some other An-caps, I'll be promoting Rand Paul and I think it's advantageous to the An-cap cause. People don't go 0-100 instantly. There's a funnel, and the starting point is typically Libertarianism-Conservatism > Libertarianism > An-cap.

If you look at info-product businesses or Home Shopping Network, they draw you in with a small purchase (small hoops to jump through) and then they up-sell you later. This is a proven system over and over again. We need to adopt this idea.

How 'bout you stop being a friggin Hare Krishna and just quit it with the dumb "An-Cap" BS already...

The only reason that anyone even goes for that shit is so that they can have some "holistic" zen-like way to just shut their minds off completely.

People aren't stupid, people will always form governments, so stop wasting time with BS that isn't real.

 

[green73]

I swear, you people are part of some concerted effort to influence all of us into giving up all political relevancy...

Hahaha

 

[Neil Desmond]

Why not this instead:

Libertarianism-Conservatism > Libertarianism > An-cap Anarchism.

?

 

[erowe1]

A society with no government just isn't real.

So what?

A society with no theft isn't real. Does that mean we should support theft?

 

[Petar]

So what?

A society with no theft isn't real. Does that mean we should support theft?

Oh great, here comes the standard An-Crap naval gazing routine...

There is no magic bullet that will allow humanity to live completely without government, taxes, etc.

Reasonable people work to create solutions that are as ideal as possible.

An-Crappists just say fuck it and run around like a bunch of Hare Krisnas wasting everyone's time...

 

[Neil Desmond]

So what?

A society with no theft isn't real. Does that mean we should support theft?

This sounds like a false dichotomy to me.

 

[erowe1]

Oh great, here comes the standard An-Crap naval gazing routine...

There is no magic bullet that will allow humanity to live completely without government, taxes, etc.

Reasonable people work to create solutions that are as ideal as possible.

An-Crappists just say fuck it and run around like a bunch of Hare Krisnas wasting everyone's time...

Ideal as possible? What does that mean unless you actually have ideals?

For what it's worth I'm not an an-cap. My political classification is Christian.

But actually supporting the state, calling evil good, that's not an option.

 

[erowe1]

This sounds like a false dichotomy to me.

You noticed that it's the same dichotomy as the quote I was replying to, right?

 

[jllundqu]

I've been minarchist for awhile now (like Ron Paul). People keep saying that I'll eventually slip in to ancap/anarchist camp..... been reading and listening to Spooner, ROthbard, etc..... I'm still a minarchist.... I still believe that government as small as possible to accomplish those few things that are necesary to hold a nation together is preferable to a nationless-faction based fantasy that would quickly be overun by the remaining governments of the world ie China.

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

I'm just going to keep leaving this every time one of these "anarchy is impossible" responses comes up:

 

[Petar]

I'm just going to keep leaving this every time one of these "anarchy is impossible" responses comes up:

What this religious zealot fails to appreciate is the fact that civilization and government go hand in hand.

 

[erowe1]

I've been minarchist for awhile now (like Ron Paul). People keep saying that I'll eventually slip in to ancap/anarchist camp..... been reading and listening to Spooner, ROthbard, etc..... I'm still a minarchist.... I still believe that government as small as possible to accomplish those few things that are necesary to hold a nation together is preferable to a nationless-faction based fantasy that would quickly be overun by the remaining governments of the world ie China.

Isn't using government to hold a nation together the exact opposite of what Ron Paul supports?

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

How 'bout you stop being a friggin Hare Krishna and just quit it with the dumb "An-Cap" BS already...

The only reason that anyone even goes for that shit is so that they can have some "holistic" zen-like way to just shut their minds off completely.

People aren't stupid, people will always form governments, so stop wasting time with BS that isn't real.

Why are you getting so bent out of shape? Is anyone forcing you to go along with the "An-Cap BS"? Are you forcing them to accept your system?

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

What this religious zealot fails to appreciate is the fact that civilization and government go hand in hand.

What you fail to understand is that order can exist without the use of force that restricts peoples' beliefs, interactions, and movements.