How is the Ron Paul USA Today ad legal?

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I've been looking at the laws as best as I can at RonPaulMax.com.

is the Ron Paul USA Today ad legal? How is it legal? I thought that an individual could not donate more than $2300 in labor or cash to a campaign.

Given that I don't like the official Ron Paul TV ads, can an individual who has a lot of money just buy a lot of airtime or newspaper space and run ads for Ron Paul that way? That seems like a huge loophole.

I'm sure there's a very simple reason why this is legal. Please let me know and what this means for promoting Ron Paul, pronto.
 
Well, he didn't donate money to the campaign directly, therefore he doesn't apply to the $2300 law...
 
You can't donate that much money directly to the campaign. But you can take action independent of the campaign and spend however much you want provided you declare what you spent to the FEC. But if the official campaign is involved *AT ALL* it will be illegal. At least, that's how I understand it.
 
krackato said:
I've been looking at the laws as best as I can at RonPaulMax.com.

is the Ron Paul USA Today ad legal? How is it legal? I thought that an individual could not donate more than $2300 in labor or cash to a campaign.

Given that I don't like the official Ron Paul TV ads, can an individual who has a lot of money just buy a lot of airtime or newspaper space and run ads for Ron Paul that way? That seems like a huge loophole.

I'm sure there's a very simple reason why this is legal. Please let me know and what this means for promoting Ron Paul, pronto.
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Easily. This ad is not supported by the campaign, it is not directed the campaign, and the campaign had no knowledge of it unless they peeked in here.

Any citizen can take an ad anywhere as long as they notify the FEC about it. Search the forum and there are links and discussion about it somewhere around.
 
Duckman said:
You can't donate that much money directly to the campaign. But you can take action independent of the campaign and spend however much you want provided you declare what you spent to the FEC. But if the official campaign is involved *AT ALL* it will be illegal. At least, that's how I understand it.
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Correct.

The expenditure has to be reported to the FEC, though, and Larry is doing that.
 
And, as Ron Paul would say.....Blowback. Now, we are probably going to see all these other yahoos with cash doing the same thing for their pick. Hey, Chuck Norris how much money do you have?
 
Myerz said:
And, as Ron Paul would say.....Blowback. Now, we are probably going to see all these other yahoos with cash doing the same thing for their pick. Hey, Chuck Norris how much money do you have?
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Nah, this has been going on for years. But usually through PACs, not individuals.
 
How is it not legal, we live in a free country, if we have the money we can purchase whatever we want to campaign for Ron Paul. The law that you are refering to only applies to cash contributions to the official campaign.

Just think about what you are saying, that would mean that everyone that has contributed $2300 to the campaign would not be able to buy T-shirts, yard-signs... to show their support for Ron Paul - that is just plain crazy. And where do you get that labor costs are included in this number? I don't mean to sound rude, but where you born in the USSR or something? or is the brainwashing in this country that complete?!
 
Myerz said:
And, as Ron Paul would say.....Blowback. Now, we are probably going to see all these other yahoos with cash doing the same thing for their pick. Hey, Chuck Norris how much money do you have?
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I think Chuck Norris invented money.
 
I think Chuch should put his money where his karate kick is... If Wannabee is such a good guy for prez, prove it with some hard cash like Larry did! LOL... Larry's the bigger star in my eyes now... Larry, we are forever in debt to you!
 
Paul Disciple wrote:

I don't mean to sound rude, but where you born in the USSR or something? or is the brainwashing in this country that complete?!
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No brainwashing, they are asking legit questions.

What it proves is how far down the sinkhole we are, where exercising your free speech rights can run you afoul of half a dozen felonies.:mad::mad::mad:
 
Ok, not totally free, but I campaign for Ron Paul everyday and have not been arrested yet. My wife was almost arrested for this "unpatriotic" activity, but that was only because she was not holding her Ron Paul sign up in a "free speech" zone. So I stand corrected, but that shouldn't stop anyone.
 
There was a post here yesterday saying the FEC has just relaxed it's rules on non official campaign advertising. Cant find the thread it had FEC in the title but you cant search short terms here -- unfortunately. From this it looks OK- and Llepard posted yesterday that he had to fill out a form for the FEC for this one.
 
PaulineDisciple said:
Ok, not totally free, but I campaign for Ron Paul everyday and have not been arrested yet.
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Have you tried raising $2,301 for Ron Paul and donating it to his official campaign? Government says that you are not FREE to do that.

Why Not?????
 
krackato said:
I've been looking at the laws as best as I can at RonPaulMax.com.

is the Ron Paul USA Today ad legal? How is it legal? I thought that an individual could not donate more than $2300 in labor or cash to a campaign.

Given that I don't like the official Ron Paul TV ads, can an individual who has a lot of money just buy a lot of airtime or newspaper space and run ads for Ron Paul that way? That seems like a huge loophole.

I'm sure there's a very simple reason why this is legal. Please let me know and what this means for promoting Ron Paul, pronto.
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Don't worry, it is legal. Freedom of speech. You know the First Amendment.

I had to file an FEC form. I had to disclose my name and contact info. I had to put disclaimers on the adv.

MARK on this forum did good work on this, look at his posts.

LWL
 
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