“Herd Immunity.” The flawed science and failures of mass vaccination

[donnay]

So the entire medical community consists of psychopathic eugenicists, bent on wiping out civilization. Yeah, ok. (And I'm the one advocating conspiracy theories?)

"Junk Science" isn't defined as "anything that proves me wrong" Donnay. "Junk Science" doesn't stand up to tests from other scientists. There are magazines, and blogs and journals devoted to the discipline of debunking bad science.

So where's your science, Donnay?

Sidebar:

Eugenics would have been so much bizarre parlor talk had it not been for extensive financing by corporate philanthropies, specifically the Carnegie Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Harriman railroad fortune. They were all in league with some of America's most respected scientists from such prestigious universities as Stanford, Yale, Harvard and Princeton. These academicians espoused race theory and race science, and then faked and twisted data to serve eugenics' racist aims.

Source:
http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/artic...azis-the-California-2549771.php#ixzz2SE6A8Obk


(This is taken from Chapter XVIII of G. Edward Griffin's book, World Without Cancer: The Story of Vitamin B17)

In 1953, Representative B. Carroll Reese of Tennessee received the authority of Congress to establish a special committee to investigate the power and influence of tax-exempt foundations. The committee never got very far off the ground due to mounting political pressure from multiple sources high within government itself and, eventually, Reese was forced to terminate the committee's work. During its short period of existence, however, many interesting and highly revealing facts were brought to light. Norman Dodd, who was the committee's director of research, and probably one of the country's most knowledgeable authorities on foundations, testified during the hearings and told the committee:


The result of the development and operation of the network in which the foundations (by their support and encouragement) have played such a significant role, seems to have provided this country with what is tantamount to a national system of education under the tight control of organizations and persons little known to the American public . . . . The curriculum in this tightly controlled scheme of education is designed to indoctrinate the American student from matriculation to the consummation of his education.(1)

Under the careful supervision of Fred Gates, John D. Rockefeller set out consciously and methodically to capture control of American education and particularly of American medical education. The process began in 1901 with the creation of the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research. It included on its board such politically oriented "medical" names as Doctors L. Emmett Holt, Christian A. Herter, T. Mitchell Pruden, Hermann M. Briggs, William H. Welch, Theobald Smith, and Simon Flexner. Christian Herter was slated for bigger things, of course, and became Secretary of State under President Eisenhower. Simon Flexner also was destined for larger success. Although his name never became as well-known as that of Herter, he and his brother, Abraham Flexner, probably influenced the lives of more people and in a more profound way than has any Secretary of State.

Abraham Flexner was on the staff of the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching. As mentioned previously, the Rockefeller and Carnegie foundations traditionally worked together almost as one in the furtherance of their mutual goals, and this certainly was no exception. The Flexner brothers represented the lens that brought both the Rockefeller and the Carnegie fortunes into sharp focus on the unsuspecting and thoroughly vulnerable medical profession.

Here is an interview with Norman Dodd:

Rockefeller Medicine Men
Medicine and Capitalism in America
http://www.whale.to/b/brown_b.html



Medical Control, Medical Corruption
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/medical.html


The Medical Monopoly
http://www.whale.to/b/mullins32.html


Education or Domination? The Rockefeller, Carnegie, and Ford Foundations Developing Knowledge for the Developing World
http://thepeoplesbookproject.com/20...eveloping-knowledge-for-the-developing-world/


THE REVITALIZED EUGENICS MOVEMENT AND THE FDA's ROLE
http://www.newswithviews.com/Richards/byron212.htm


Eugenics: The War of Capitalism and Socialism Against Humanity
http://distributistreview.com/mag/2...talism-and-socialism-against-humanity-part-1/

"...Hitler did not wake up one day and say “Eureka! Courts of genetic purity! Get these Jews and Slavs out of the master race gene pool”. For that matter neither did Stalin or Mao. Rather, they were students of the false science perpetuated by the best and brightest and funded by wealthy capitalists like Rockefeller, JP Morgan, Carnegie and others."


Can You Write a Check for Genocide?
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/08/18/can-write-check-for-genocide/

"America’s eugenics movement, powered by millions of dollars from the opulent Carnegie Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation, and the Harriman railroad fortune sought to extend its reach into Germany. Rockefeller and Carnegie spent Depression-era fortunes to finance the worst Nazi doctors and race institutes. Hitler promptly implemented American precepts with stunning ferocity and velocity. Among the chief recipients of Rockefeller money was top Nazi doctor Otmar von Verschuer. During the Holocaust, Verschuer’s assistant, Josef Mengele, continued eugenic twin research at Auschwitz. Mengele’s efforts yielded monstrous experiments. At Nuremberg, the Nazis read the words of Holmes and entered the California statutes in their defense. Nonetheless, Nazi doctors were convicted of genocide."

 

[PaulConventionWV]

I understand you have to be obtuse, because it you weren't it would mean admitting your entire belief system was based on lies. But it's pretty pathetic to stand there and innocently say "What seems to be the problem?" when it's been patiently explained to you over and over again.

Refusing to acknowledge even basic information only serves to keep the conversation from advancing.

Doctor: "This vaccine will protect you!
Patient: "It didn't work!"
Doctor: "Oh, well it only works if everyone else does it too!"
Patient: "Gee! That really makes me feel safe, doctor! I'm sooo glad I injected myself with mercury and other poisons only to learn that it's virtually impossible for it to work!"

 

[PaulConventionWV]

You're not educating anybody. You're literally advocating for the death of billions of children. You have the right to do so, but own it.

LOL "Billions"

Just how many children are there? How many do you think not achieving 95% immunity will kill? You call us conspiracy theorists when you expect the equivalent of several Black Plagues as a result of not having vaccines.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Chemo is chemical poison and the most toxic substance ever to be put deliberately into a persons body. It kills the cancers cells as well as the good cells to help fight the cancer in the first place. There are ways to take on cancer without having to inundate our bodies with a poison so bad, that it kills the patient in a very slow process called Cachexia (a wasting disease), and usually bankrupting them and their family in the process. Of course that is for another discussion. All hail allopathic voodoo!

I see my Uncle wasting away under chemo. It only took 3 rounds (3 one week doses with a week in between each) and it brought him literally to his knees. I talked him into stopping, no more. 5 weeks later he was able take walks and get into the car by himself, starting to feel much better, then his oncologist talked him into more chemo (without so much as a scan to see if the previous had any effect or to see if it had spread). Another week of chemo and now, a week later, he is a total mess again.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

So the entire medical community consists of psychopathic eugenicists, bent on wiping out civilization. Yeah, ok. (And I'm the one advocating conspiracy theories?)

"Junk Science" isn't defined as "anything that proves me wrong" Donnay. "Junk Science" doesn't stand up to tests from other scientists. There are magazines, and blogs and journals devoted to the discipline of debunking bad science.

So where's your science, Donnay?

Have you ever actually studied the science?

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Still raising SV40 even after being shown it hasn't been in any vaccines in 50 years? And have also been shown through follow-up studies on thousands of those who were exposed to it and showed no increase in cancer risk?

Let's all just wash our hands and take Vitamin D and skip the vaccines and nobody will get sick or cancer or die. Cool.

What's wrong with hygiene and vitamins? Do you not agree that there are many natural ways to boost your immune system? Why take vaccines when you can boost your immune system naturally? Oh, I forgot it's because people are stupid and need to be herded like animals to do the right thing by the scientific overlor--erm, authorities. Does no pro-vaxxer find it suspect that the government is pushing this stuff with taxpayer money and nobody is allowed to sue for vaccine injuries? Does nobody find that suspect? Why am I the only one who that raises red flags for on this forum?

 

[PaulConventionWV]

And if you listened carefully, you'd hear that he used chemo patients only as an example of people who can't get the vaccine. Those people depend on the lack of transmission through the vaccinated population to protect them. You may be right (probably not, but looking it up is pointless anyway because you won't acknowledge reality anyway) about a recently vaccinated patient, but that's only relevant in a different conversation - not in the context of herd immunity.

Unless you seriously think that the entire population is getting vaccinated simultaneously. Which you might. Probably in the chemtrails or the water or something.

So you want to kill chemo patients by letting measles run its course through the population. Own it, Donnay,

You are a mental bully. She doesn't have to own it just like you don't have to own the fact that you are advocating for injecting poison into people's bodies. Why must you be so vicious and spew so much vitriol?

 

[donnay]

I see my Uncle wasting away under chemo. It only took 3 rounds (3 one week doses with a week in between each) and it brought him literally to his knees. I talked him into stopping, no more. 5 weeks later he was able take walks and get into the car by himself, starting to feel much better, then his oncologist talked him into more chemo (without so much as a scan to see if the previous had any effect or to see if it had spread). Another week of chemo and now, a week later, he is a total mess again.

I am so sorry to hear that. Unfortunately it seems to be the norm. Most people on chemo do not die of the cancer per se, they die of malnutrition. Because the chemo is polluting their bodies with poison they cannot hold anything down, in the way of good nutritional foods, to help them get stronger and help their immune system get stronger.

You should have your uncle at least watch G. Edward Griffin's - World Without Cancer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKhzbcpI_ro

Or Jerry Brunetti - Food As Medicine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boYYnYSkBCU


Both of those videos are empowering. People who are diagnosed with Cancer need to hear things that can encourage them.

I pray your Uncle beats this disease!