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I’ve earlier written in this thread about wind energy that generates so little energy (compared to the energy needed to build and dismantle them and the financial costs) that they are no real alternative to “conventional” energy...
I’ve also posted in this thread that because of the batteries, electric cars are even more polluting than diesel cars.
Even our wonderful media admit that it’s a problem that wind and solar energy (only) generates enough energy at peak moments, while at other moments it doesn’t generate enough electricity.
Now the “solution” for this minor technicality is to start gigantic battery parks, which according to Bloomberg has already made the costs for solar and wind power generated electricity drop by 9% “in the last six months” (to $44/MWh for wind and $50/MWh for solar energy).
https://thenextavenue.com/2020/04/2...erate-the-lowering-of-renewable-energy-costs/
For some reason they forgot to compare the price to “conventional” energy. They also “forgot” to take into account the enormous environmental “costs” of these highly toxic batteries, let alone the massive amounts of energy needed to produce them!
They forgot the environmental results of the space these “parks” consume, where forests could grow.
They even forgot to take the financial “costs” to produce these battery parks into account...
But please don’t think for yourself, or you’ll see the environmental, green energy agenda for the fraud it is.
There is another problem with these battery parks, where the electricity is stored in lithium-ion batteries. Lithium batteries have a habit of “spontaneous” ignition. Of course producing more pollution and greenhouse gasses!
See an example of such an explosion in South Korea.
There have been so many lithium-ion battery fires in South Korea that in 2019 the government stopped installing more battery parks.
In the USA there have been some concerns over battery parks since April 2019 when an explosion at Arizona Public Service’s McMicken battery facility near Phoenix sent several fire-fighters to the hospital. Arizona regulators subsequently learned that a fire in 2014 also destroyed APS’s Mt. Elden battery storage system.
There have been more explosions of wind power storage batteries, for example at a power station located near Brussels, Belgium: https://stopthesethings.com/2020/03...-systems-literally-setting-the-world-on-fire/
(http://web.archive.org/web/20200413115445/https://stopthesethings.com/2020/03/01/giant-batteries-bomb-renewable-energy-storage-systems-literally-setting-the-world-on-fire/)
Of course mining for lithium and cobalt (also needed for these very polluting batteries) is associated with human rights violations (like child labour in the Congo) and pollution.
Like for example in China (where Lithium is mined): https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/mo...er-experiment-Pollution-disastrous-scale.html
Australia, Argentina, Chile and Bolivia, dominate more than 80% of world lithium production.
Congo is the top producer of cobalt.
Another minor technicality is that because of the high demand and prices, “direct-shipping ore” from mining sites to China has become common practice.
Because raw material is sent out before it is concentrated, more mass has to be shipped, which “means that your energy consumption for transportation is much higher -- roughly three times higher”.
This of course results in these batteries needing even more energy to be produced. Thankfully our wonderful media forgot to connect these dots, or maybe, possibly even the environmental crazies will lose faith in “green energy”: https://www.greentechmedia.com/arti...attery-production-is-surging-but-at-what-cost
(https://archive.is/OYuwO)
I’ve also posted in this thread that because of the batteries, electric cars are even more polluting than diesel cars.
Even our wonderful media admit that it’s a problem that wind and solar energy (only) generates enough energy at peak moments, while at other moments it doesn’t generate enough electricity.
Now the “solution” for this minor technicality is to start gigantic battery parks, which according to Bloomberg has already made the costs for solar and wind power generated electricity drop by 9% “in the last six months” (to $44/MWh for wind and $50/MWh for solar energy).
https://thenextavenue.com/2020/04/2...erate-the-lowering-of-renewable-energy-costs/
For some reason they forgot to compare the price to “conventional” energy. They also “forgot” to take into account the enormous environmental “costs” of these highly toxic batteries, let alone the massive amounts of energy needed to produce them!
They forgot the environmental results of the space these “parks” consume, where forests could grow.
They even forgot to take the financial “costs” to produce these battery parks into account...
But please don’t think for yourself, or you’ll see the environmental, green energy agenda for the fraud it is.
There is another problem with these battery parks, where the electricity is stored in lithium-ion batteries. Lithium batteries have a habit of “spontaneous” ignition. Of course producing more pollution and greenhouse gasses!
See an example of such an explosion in South Korea.
There have been so many lithium-ion battery fires in South Korea that in 2019 the government stopped installing more battery parks.
In the USA there have been some concerns over battery parks since April 2019 when an explosion at Arizona Public Service’s McMicken battery facility near Phoenix sent several fire-fighters to the hospital. Arizona regulators subsequently learned that a fire in 2014 also destroyed APS’s Mt. Elden battery storage system.
There have been more explosions of wind power storage batteries, for example at a power station located near Brussels, Belgium: https://stopthesethings.com/2020/03...-systems-literally-setting-the-world-on-fire/
(http://web.archive.org/web/20200413115445/https://stopthesethings.com/2020/03/01/giant-batteries-bomb-renewable-energy-storage-systems-literally-setting-the-world-on-fire/)
Of course mining for lithium and cobalt (also needed for these very polluting batteries) is associated with human rights violations (like child labour in the Congo) and pollution.
Like for example in China (where Lithium is mined): https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/mo...er-experiment-Pollution-disastrous-scale.html
Australia, Argentina, Chile and Bolivia, dominate more than 80% of world lithium production.
Congo is the top producer of cobalt.
Another minor technicality is that because of the high demand and prices, “direct-shipping ore” from mining sites to China has become common practice.
Because raw material is sent out before it is concentrated, more mass has to be shipped, which “means that your energy consumption for transportation is much higher -- roughly three times higher”.
This of course results in these batteries needing even more energy to be produced. Thankfully our wonderful media forgot to connect these dots, or maybe, possibly even the environmental crazies will lose faith in “green energy”: https://www.greentechmedia.com/arti...attery-production-is-surging-but-at-what-cost
(https://archive.is/OYuwO)
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