Gingrich and Santorum CAN'T WIN THE NOMINATION. They miss out on 500 delegates.

[SurfsUp]

Because they are NOT on those states' ballots. Ha Ha Ha

that is according to Rev-pacs rebroadcast from tonight. Watching it now.

EDIT: Apparently it's 556 Delegates or so.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Thats true.

 

[muh_roads]

When they drop out and endorse Romney, do those delegates have to go to him or do they become unbound?

 

[Oddone]

When they drop out and endorse Romney, do those delegates have to go to him or do they become unbound?

Any delegates that Gingrich and Santorum get become unbound in most cases. Some states have different rules, such as they must still vote for say Gingrich ont he first vote in the convention then become unbound.

 

[SurfsUp]

556 delegates I think.

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

556 out of 2000ish? and they need 1150 to win? haha looks bad for santorum/gingrich.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I assure you the GOP will bend rules to suit their needs.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

I assure you the GOP will bend rules to suit their needs.

Yep.

 

[QWDC]

I remember that they didn't get enough signatures for a full delegate slate in states like Illinois...but I thought as long as no one challenged the delegates they would still appear on the ballot anyways?

 

[Rudeman]

Does anyone have the specific delegates they're missing? It would help in spreading that Gingrich and Santorum are unelectable.

 

[ericthethe]

If it's impossible for them to win but they remain in the race it's obvious they're supporting Romney. If they cared about getting a true conservative nominated they'd drop out and endorse Paul.

Share this with everyone.

 

[jkob]

Is this combined?

Need specifics.

 

[blocks]

This is from Oddone in another thread:

1,144 are needed but there are 2,286 after the penalty on NH, FL and SC. Out of those 2,286 delegates Santorum and Gingrich are not elegiable for some 500 or so. Santorum and Gingrich each didn't make it on several ballots. Some of the states one did while the other didn't and vise versa.

Which leaves them with only being able to get delegates from a pool of 1,722. Then if you subtract any delegates that Ron Paul and Romney already have the number is lower. On top of this 503 delegates are considered unbound, meaning they can vote for whoever they want.

Edit: Basically if either Gingrich or Santorum stay in this race, it guarntees a brokered convention.

If he's accurate, that doesn't mean Newt and Rick can't win...But it would make it very unlikely from a pure numbers standpoint.

Myself, I'd like more information on this.

 

[cindy25]

to win on the first ballot it would mean Gingrich would have to get 75% of the vote in the states he is competing in; that is impossible.

but Gingrich is probably planning on a brokered convention also.

Santorum is only staying for one reason, to take votes away from Gingrich so he (Santorum) can be VP

 

[milo10]

Edit: Okay, I see I was wrong. Gingrich was awarded all delegates in South Carolina.

 

[SurfsUp]

bump

 

[nobody's_hero]

I think that they're just in this to slow Ron Paul down.

They know they can't win. Hell, Newt's probably being paid to stay in this thing.

 

[Mark37snj]

I posted these in another thread:

I think the reason they are staying in is to stop Ron Paul and the movement. Face it, if it was just Ron and Mittens, Ron would be getting ALOT more attention and his Liberty message would be converting alot more people. They are diluting our impact by staying in. Right now the media is busy spinning the other 3 but if it was just Paul and Mittens the media would not be able to continue the blatent bias against Paul and we would be picking up alot more delegates as gaining momentum quickly. This is Ron Pauls strategy of sticking in there till there are only 2 standing and the GOP establishiment is doing everything they can to derail us before we get there. So we need to buckel down, stop being pessimistic, and realise...WEVE ONLY JUST BEGUN!!!!

So that means Gingrinch and Santorum need to get approximately 66.4% of all delegates they qualify for. Us Ron Paul supporters have been accused of being overly optomistic but The Grinch and Santorum are now in the realm of just being flat out DELUSIONAL.

EDIT: We should start a meme of The Grinch and Santorum are the 66%'s in this election or something like that.

 

[SurfsUp]

^^ I think you nailed it.

 

[playpianoking]

Technically there are 1114 delegates needed to win out of the 2500 or so. So if they miss out on ~500 they could still win. It was debunked on reddit earlier.