Front page of DRUDGE REPORT: McCain's elligibility comes into question...

[Monotaur]

From the Drudge Report:

NYT: MCCAIN'S BIRTHPLACE IN CANAL ZONE RAISES ELIGIBILITY QUESTIONS...

 

[WilliamC]

Well I'll eat my hat if this really pans out to be an issue.

I guess I'd have to buy a hat first...

 

[slamhead]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/u...gin&adxnnlx=1204168002-jTwJSQFJ79lTSNW5ZPAR7A

 

[homah]

As much as I'd like to see McCain out of the picture, this wouldn't be right. He was born outside the country because his father was serving overseas in the military. If that makes him not a "natural-born" citizen, it is a disgrace.

 

[slamhead]

I don't think he was natural-born. I think he was born of a jackal.

 

[hyoomen]

Well I'll eat my hat if this really pans out to be an issue.

I guess I'd have to buy a hat first...

I'll take a spot of cinnamon and honey on mine. This sounds like the NYT continuing their attack -- I'm starting to think they actually WANT to reunify the Republicans with all of this chicanery.

 

[AlbemarleNC0003]

He's going to get another campaign finance boost. He's going to overspend, and be labeled a criminal in the general election due to the FEC violation. It's about change.

 

[Fields]

Wow . I might have to eat my harsh words towards some of you guys for being irritated about this being brought up so much.

 

[amy31416]

Well I'll eat my hat if this really pans out to be an issue.

I guess I'd have to buy a hat first...

You don't own even a baseball hat???

I doubt your patriotism, boy...

 

[american.swan]

Well I think my two sons should be able to be president even through their born overseas....but the laws the law and I think McCain should forget it or get the law changed.

 

[Thomas Paine]

I don't think he was natural-born. I think he was born of a jackal.

QFT

 

[Viracocha]

From the US State Department website at http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86755.pdf


7 FAM 1116.1-4 Not Included in the Meaning of "In the United States"

(TL:CON-64; 11-30-95)

a. A U.S.-registered or documented ship on the high seas or in the exclusive economic zone is not considered to be part of the United States. A child born on such a vessel does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of the place of birth (Lam Mow v. Nagle, 24 F.2d 316 (9th Cir., 1928)).

b. A U.S.-registered aircraft outside U.S. airspace is not considered to be part of U.S. territory. A child born on such an aircraft outside U.S. airspace does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of the place of birth.

c. Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.

 

[Jodi]

From the US State Department website at http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86755.pdf


7 FAM 1116.1-4 Not Included in the Meaning of "In the United States"

(TL:CON-64; 11-30-95)

a. A U.S.-registered or documented ship on the high seas or in the exclusive economic zone is not considered to be part of the United States. A child born on such a vessel does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of the place of birth (Lam Mow v. Nagle, 24 F.2d 316 (9th Cir., 1928)).

b. A U.S.-registered aircraft outside U.S. airspace is not considered to be part of U.S. territory. A child born on such an aircraft outside U.S. airspace does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of the place of birth.

c. Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.

Whoa!

 

[pacelli]

I read this as, "McCain's electability comes into question..."

Carl Cameron asked the WRONG PERSON.

 

[Viracocha]

Nevermind. I spoke too soon.

8 U.S.C. § 1403. Persons born in the Canal Zone or Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904

(a) Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.

(b) Any person born in the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States employed by the Government of the United States or by the Panama Railroad Company, or its successor in title, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.

 

[torchbearer]

From the US State Department website at http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86755.pdf


7 FAM 1116.1-4 Not Included in the Meaning of "In the United States"

(TL:CON-64; 11-30-95)

a. A U.S.-registered or documented ship on the high seas or in the exclusive economic zone is not considered to be part of the United States. A child born on such a vessel does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of the place of birth (Lam Mow v. Nagle, 24 F.2d 316 (9th Cir., 1928)).

b. A U.S.-registered aircraft outside U.S. airspace is not considered to be part of U.S. territory. A child born on such an aircraft outside U.S. airspace does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of the place of birth.

c. Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.

Ok, I'm sold. How do we get this windbag out of the running asap, so its a huck vs. paul race for delegates?

 

[FreedomRings]

I'm divided on this. On one hand, if there is a realistic chance this could derail McCain, we should pursue it. On the other hand, attacking him because his parents served abroad might generate a groundswell of sympathy for McCain, and the Supreme Court would probably rule in his favor. So it might backfire, cement the nomination and give him a better chance to win the presidency than he has now.

 

[torchbearer]

I'm divided on this. On one hand, if there is a realistic chance this could derail McCain, we should pursue it. On the other hand, attacking him because his parents served abroad might generate a groundswell of sympathy for McCain, and the Supreme Court would probably rule in his favor. So it might backfire, cement the nomination and give him a better chance to win the presidency than he has now.

I agree people born on military installations abroad should be qualified. But the rules state that they are not... and there may be good reason for such... just in case they have other loyalities etc outside the U.S. being not born here.... just simple examples of why such a law were written.

 

[Jodi's mom]

UNfortunately, it looks like he is probably a citizen...but he's still unqualified to be our president.

We need someone with integrity, discipline, honesty, trustworthy, faithful, and sincere. Hmmmm....now who would that sound like?

Edited: I forgot to mention self-control!

 

[Bradley in DC]

c. Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.[/I]

It has nothing to do with WHERE he was born. He is a natural born citizen because his parents were when he was born.