Fox Debate Tonight To Include Ron Paul

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Will Fox Ask Paul About The Newsletters In Tonight's Debate?


Fox News will broadcast another debate with the Republican presidential candidates tonight, and will include Ron Paul in this edition. Paul and his supporters bitterly complained about the network's exclusion in their debate last week, but may not enjoy the scrutiny Paul might receive after the exposure of the contents of his newsletter by The New Republic:

Following the New Hampshire primary, six Republican candidates will attend Thursday night's debate in Myrtle Beach, state party officials said today.
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, U.S. Sen. John McCain of Arizona, U.S. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, former Massachussetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former U.S. Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee have all accepted their invitations, said Rob Godfrey, spokesman for the state Republican Party.

"The stakes couldn't be higher this election, and we couldn't be more excited to extend a warm South Carolina welcome to six White House hopefuls who are seeking the Republican nomination," said Katon Dawson, chairman of the state GOP.

To be invited, candidates must have placed in the top 5 positions in the New Hampshire poll -- McCain, Romney, Huckabee, Giuliani and Paul -- or be polling at least 5 percent nationally, such as Thompson.


Those objective standards leave Duncan Hunter off the stage, which is really a shame. Hunter provides a clear, rational conservative voice in these events. Fox used a fair standard for inclusion this time; three states have now held caucuses or primaries, and it's significantly less whimsical than their last attempt. However, I'd still like to see Hunter in the mix, especially given the inclusion of Ron Paul.

Will Fox demand an explanation from Paul for the statements in his newsletters? Brit Hume and Chris Wallace have not shied away from tough questions in the past. The seventeen years covered by James Kirchick unearthed a treasure trove of lunacy, including the following:

In a passage titled "The Duke's Victory," a newsletter celebrated Duke's 44 percent showing in the 1990 Louisiana Senate primary. "Duke lost the election," it said, "but he scared the blazes out of the Establishment." In 1991, a newsletter asked, "Is David Duke's new prominence, despite his losing the gubernatorial election, good for anti-big government forces?" The conclusion was that "our priority should be to take the anti-government, anti-tax, anti-crime, anti-welfare loafers, anti-race privilege, anti-foreign meddling message of Duke, and enclose it in a more consistent package of freedom." ...
A 1988 newsletter cited a doctor who believed that AIDS was created in a World Health Organization laboratory in Fort Detrick, Maryland. In addition, Ron Paul & Associates sold a video about Waco produced by "patriotic Indiana lawyer Linda Thompson"--as one of the newsletters called her--who maintained that Waco was a conspiracy to kill ATF agents who had previously worked for President Clinton as bodyguards. As with many of the more outlandish theories the newsletters cited over the years, the video received a qualified endorsement: "I can't vouch for every single judgment by the narrator, but the film does show the depths of government perfidy, and the national police's tricks and crimes," the newsletter said, adding, "Send your check for $24.95 to our Houston office, or charge the tape to your credit card at 1-800-RON-PAUL."

In June 1991, an entry on racial disturbances in Washington, DC's Adams Morgan neighborhood was titled, "Animals Take Over the D.C. Zoo." "This is only the first skirmish in the race war of the 1990s," the newsletter predicted. In an October 1992 item about urban crime, the newsletter's author--presumably Paul--wrote, "I've urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense. For the animals are coming."


Any one of these statements would have sent politicians into well-deserved retirement. The media would have latched onto any David Duke endorsement and rightly noted the connection to the Klan and supremacist organizations. That comes as a piece with the rest of the Jewish-conspiracy mongering, and the reference to blacks as "animals" is undisguised hatred.

Paul will probably respond with his insistence that he knew nothing about what went into these newsletters, which is patently absurd. These newsletters cost him a bundle over the years, and they brought in a bundle in receipts as well. As the passage above shows, his newsletters were an explicitly commercial enterprise; he made money off of sales and merchandising from them. Either he'd have to be a complete and utter moron to have all of this happening over a period of at least seventeen years without ever reading his own material, or the explanation lies elsewhere.

More interesting will be the reactions of the other candidates when Fox asks about this. Until now, they have treated Paul as a tiresome yet amusing colleague, ignoring his rants except on 9/11. Will they denounce these statements and Paul's refusal to rationally account for them -- assuming Fox asks the question? If Hume and his crew skip the question, will one of the candidates bring it up anyway?

Hopefully, they will. Paul wanted to be in the debate. Let him answer on national television for these appalling tracts and his comfort with their publication for so many years. If he tries to say that he had no idea what his own organization is publishing over two decades, let him explain how that qualifies him as competent to run anything else at all, let alone the country.
 
I hope and pray that this time RP will shut them down for interrupting his speaking.
Just like they do to each other.
call 'em out point blank..."Let me finish" or just plain "Shut Up while I speak"
he he
 
I hope and pray that this time RP will shut them down for interrupting his speaking.
Just like they do to each other.
call 'em out point blank..."Let me finish" or just plain "Shut Up while I speak"
he he

I hope he exposes them for the traitorous trotskyites they are. All running the same policies but saying it differently.

I hope they wont waste debate time with sports questions this time :mad:
 
I support him 100% but it is worrisome to say the least. He has to tell the truth and emphasize his record of liberty and equality for all!
I dread watching this debate tonight seeing that it's sponsored by Fox but will to support Ron.
 
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this is just stupid. He's going to commit political suicide by going on Fox's debate especially after our so called "boycott"..i have reasons to believe they suppressed this info. to smear him live tonight.
 
this could get very ugly for ron if this stuff comes up. you know how these people work - they'll do anything to destroy anyone who threatens them. i just hope that people watching will listen to paul, be objective, and think for themselves (ha).
 
Regardless of the questions, Ron Paul MUST

1) be more forceful and demand not to be interrupted. He should be pissed enough by now which should put him into his element.

2) interject in the discussion more often

3) basically do things others are doing to get his point across
 
I have bad feeling that the newsletter stuff will be brought up. If RP does well in the debates I can guarantee that towards the end of the debate they will bring it up, then let the other candidates express their collective "outrage" demagouge the issue then the debate will be over, and for all intent in purpose so will the campaign.
 
Oh I can't WAIT to see how "F U Frank Luntz" decides to "poll" the people. Last time they showed a "heartbeat" of what people thought. Of course a few people in this "random" assortment were the same people from a previous debate. But its all random of course.
 
I hope and pray that this time RP will shut them down for interrupting his speaking.
Just like they do to each other.
call 'em out point blank..."Let me finish" or just plain "Shut Up while I speak"
he he

Maybe he should say, "Didn't your parents teach you to respect your elders". That should go over well in South Carolina.
 
Paul better be a tough guy tonight. He will have the whole network after him now in addition to the dimwits on stage. I am almost 100% sure they will ask him about the newsletters. They are struggling to smear the guy and this is the perfect opportunity.
 
I still think he needs to link the importance of picking the right foreign policy for our military service men and women. State he is either wrong or they are ALL wrong. Raise the question of why are none of them willing to at least investigate the other side of the coin. - Don't the troops deserve your time?

Sprinkle in he received most military support & American $ last quarter because they have investigated the matter. Why won't they?

He needs to link these to stop all the interruptions and laughing. If they continue it will appear as though they are suppressing something to help the troops.= VERY BAD for them.

He also needs to reinforce that he is not stopping the war on those responsible. On the contrary he will place a bounty on their heads.

Streamline his msg- Use the Murderer and Motive example- It's far better than the China one because he says the murder was 100% to blame but we should know why it was committed.

We can either kill OBL's recruits faster than he can recruit them or take away the ability to recruit from him. - Land Occupation.
 
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