Federal government "shutdown" (2023 edition)

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[Occam's Banana]

Trump has done more good on balance than Massie ever has or ever will.
Massie is there for us whenever it doesn't do any good, and he is increasingly there for RINOs like McCuckthy when it counts.

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*yawn*

You're a lot better at sucking Trump's cock than sneering at Massie.

(If you ask nicely, I'm sure Lindsey will make it a threesome.)

 

[acptulsa]

That is false and not even the thing Massie incorrectly claimed.

You were there ( there's no other way you could know for certain it was false)?

So, if you know what isn't what the man said, you must know what he did say. So tell--but remember, I'm just going to post the video so people can figure out for themselves who is lying...

 

[Swordsmyth]

You were there ( there's no other way you could know for certain it was false)?

The logic of the claim fails.
The actions involved did not even come close to causing CoG, and while Massie was correct about the rules his insistence on them could have been used to trigger it.
The House was attempting to pass "must pass" legislation and he tried prevent them from doing so without a quorum, had they been unable to pass the legislation (they did pass it anyway) they could have tried to implement CoG.

So, if you know what isn't what the man said, you must know what he did say. So tell--but remember, I'm just going to post the video so people can figure out for themselves who is lying...

He didn't say Trump was in on a plot to suspend the Constitution.
Please do post the video as it proves you are making things up.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You were there ( there's no other way you could know for certain it was false)?

So, if you know what isn't what the man said, you must know what he did say. So tell--but remember, I'm just going to post the video so people can figure out for themselves who is lying...

The War On Us - Rep. Thomas Massie
https://odysee.com/@RonPaul:d/the-war-on-us-part2-massie:5

What you said and what Massie said are two different things.
Massie speculated that Pelosi wanted to use the bill to somehow launch a coup, that may or may not be what she was doing.
Trump wanting the same bill to be passed doesn't mean he had the same motive even if that is what Pelosi was doing.
You claimed that his concerns and speculation were proven fact and that they applied to Trump.
Massie did not ever claim that Trump was trying to impose CoG.
But even if he was right about Pelosi he only said Trump pressured him to let the bill pass, that does not mean Trump was in on any plot she had.

Like I said, the House was attempting to pass "must pass" legislation and he tried prevent them from doing so without a quorum, had they been unable to pass the legislation (they did pass it anyway) they could have tried to implement CoG.
If the Bill passed there would be no basis for claiming the government was unable to function so CoG could be invoked.

 

[acptulsa]

But even if he was right about Pelosi he only said Trump pressured him to let the bill pass, that does not mean Trump was in on any plot she had.

Why do you keep falling back on the "Trump is an imbecile" defense? Do you really consider that a strong selling point?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Why do you keep falling back on the "Trump is an imbecile" defense? Do you really consider that a strong selling point?

LOL
That's not what I said.
He could have had many reasons for his actions.

 

[acptulsa]

LOL
That's not what I said.
He could have had many reasons for his actions.

None of them could be good.

That's why you keep calling him an imbecile, remember? Because there's only two reasons someone could have for doing something that evil--either they're evil or they're stupid. And you keep choosing to believe Trump is stupid because thinking he's 4D Chess Smart would require you to admit to yourself he's evil.

And that's how cognitive dissonance makes clowns of people.

 

[Swordsmyth]

None of them could be good.

That's why you keep calling him an imbecile, remember? Because there's only two reasons someone could have for doing something that evil--either they're evil or they're stupid. And you keep choosing to believe Trump is stupid because thinking he's 4D Chess Smart would require you to admit to yourself he's evil.

And that's how cognitive dissonance makes clowns of people.

False.
He was not all powerful and had to make choices between the best of bad options many times.
You don't get to set a false premise and then declare victory.

 

[acptulsa]

You don't get to set a false premise and then declare victory.

I know. I'm one of the main ones who never let you get away with that, remember?

I did neither.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I know. I'm one of the main ones who never let you get away with that, remember?

I did neither.

Your projection game is weak.

 

[acptulsa]

Your projection game is weak.

Yeah, I bet it is weak, considering I'm not using projection at all.

You think that because you truly think you can fool people by projecting Trump's sins on Massie. Using projection that is bold, but won't fool anybody under the sun, isn't as strong as you think.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yeah, I bet it is weak, considering I'm not using projection at all.

You think that because you truly think you can fool people by projecting Trump's sins on Massie. Using projection that is bold, but won't fool anybody under the sun, isn't as strong as you think.

It's almost all you do.
But you do it so poorly everyone can see it and nobody is fooled.
You used to have better skills but like so many your skills decline with overuse.

 

[acptulsa]

You used to have better skills but like so many your skills decline with overuse.

And still you can't catch up. Why do I bother? It's like jogging slow to build up a toddler's confidence, but one just can't run slow enough.

 

[Swordsmyth]

And still you can't catch up. Why do I bother? It's like jogging slow to build up a toddler's confidence, but one just can't run slow enough.

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[acptulsa]

It's like jogging slow to build up a toddler's confidence, but one just can't run slow enough.

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Oh, good. Nappy time. How nice to get some relief from the self-entitled brat.