Eric Peters: Why I Like The Donald and May Even Vote for Him

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Why I Like The Donald and May Even Vote for Him

by eric • May 10, 2016

http://ericpetersautos.com/2016/05/10/why-i-like-the-donald/#comment-646860

Voting amounts to answering that question about whether you’ve stopped beating your wife.

There’s no winning. Best to keep your mouth shut.

But – god help me – I may just vote for Trump.

Not because I like Trump – I suspect his Dear Leader tendencies – but because I love what he has done to Jeb! and Lyin’ Ted (the next-best thing to Jeb!) and even more satisfying, the entire cohort of oily, cap-toothed “neoconservative” warfare staters.

In particular Billy Kristol, publisher of The Weekly Standard – the bible of chickenhawks who love war so long as someone else does the dying.

And the killing.

Guys like Kristol (and Rush and Hannity and Mittens, too) never get their own hands wet. The want blood on other people’s hands – while they chortle in psychopathic ecstasy on Fox News, probably masturbating each other under the table at the thought of it all.

I know this bastard Kristol personally. Well, I know personally about his oleaginous machinations; his Cheshire Cat wheedling behind the scenes, the way he fed Talking Points to house-trained “conservative” media organs like The WashingtonTimes, where I worked for a number of years as an editorial writer and columnist.

It was an eye-opening experience.

I saw the man behind the curtain.

And his name was (and still is) Billy.

Oh, he manifests in different guises. George (times two) and Dick (several Dicks) sometimes. And Don and Ted and Paul and Mittens, too. But it is always Billy’s voice emanating from their traps.

Billy and his friends…

How these people got the power they have to direct public opinion (well, “conservative” opinion – by directing the editorial policy of “conservative” media) is something I have yet to grok.

But power they most definitely have.

I used to come to work very early in the morning, hours before the others. It’s when I’m at my best for writing. Being there first happened to mean I was also the guy who checked the office fax machine first (we had fax machines back in the ‘90s). Every day – literally – there would be faxes from something called The Project for The New American Century – an entity almost no one outside of the inner circles of DC politics had ever even heard of at the time.

It was run by Billy.

These faxes urged War and more War. And more Security, too. America must “rebuild” her defenses (read: chuck more money at the Offense Industry, which already consumed more of the federal budget than any other item and needed “rebuilding” in the same way that Marlon Brando needed another triple angus Thickburger) and “take out” (always the tough guy talk from guys far from tough themselves) “evildoers” and “enemies of freedom” such as Saddam (always referred to by his first name).

Guess where George The Elder got that?

The same place his son got that.

Whatever ideas these two had, they got them by way of Billy. It seemed the entire “conservative” Republican establishment sat like the RCA dog in front of Billy’s Victrola … keen to hear their master’s voice.

Very curious.

The faxes themselves were not odd. All sorts of faxes came over the transom. What was very peculiar was the way the editorial page staff – the way the editorial page editor – treated anything from Billy much the same as the Israelites received injunctions from Moses.

Billy’s talking points became editorials – almost verbatim – the very next day.

Why, I wondered? Does Billy possess photographs of the editorial page editor and a goat, together as one in the moonlight?

I never found out exactly why Billy wielded such influence. But the fact remained: he did. For all practical purposes, he was the editorial page editor of The Times. Which was in those days what Fox News is today – the front organization for the Republican Party.

Or rather, the elements that controlled it.

Then came 911 – interestingly named and even more interesting that it occurred on that particular day, to make that particular naming possible. Billy got his wish.

War, forever.

Now comes Trump – threatening, almost believably, to end the wars. To focus on – gasp! – America first.

This has Billy throwing a conniption fit. He is so enervated by Trump that he threatens to back not merely Mittens (a Chimp with better hair) or some other safe bet toady… but Hillary. Which is gratifying to me because it exposes Billy’s true self.

What he really is.

Which is about as “conservative” as I am short.

And I am six feet three.

The Long Con is genuinely threatened. The co-opting of the “conservative” political side off the aisle by Manchurians like Billy. They figured they could beat the Bible a little bit, bash some **** (well, they let eager tools like the Chimp and Lyin’ Ted do that for them) and the people not on the political left would faithfully support them and thus the Wars because … well, what choice did they have?

Aren’t you proud to be an American? Where at least you know you’re “free”?

Now they have a choice.

And Billy is beside himself.

Which ought to fill every American’s heart – left or right, liberal or conservative – with transcendent joy. If Trump’s victory means the shattering of Billy’s power, the end of the neo-con con, then I will not only vote for The Donald, I will put a sign in my front yard for The Donald.

Getting rid of Billy – all the Billys – is as crucial at this moment as throwing sand on a fire before the thing gets out of hand. Or – more apt – getting rid of the termites before the foundation becomes unfixable.

If that takes Trump, so be it.
 
Hiring Trump to fix the neocon problem is like buying one of these for your local fire department:



Which is, of course, why the mainstream media is selling him as the answer to the neocon problem. Every minute of every hour of every day.
 
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It is amazing to me that anyone on this forum doesn't see how useful Trump is for destroying the grip of Bill Kristol. We don't really know how lame or bad Trump might be as president, but we do know that Bill Kristol is a major enemy of liberty and the constitution. The fact that Trump is not a libertarian doesn't change the fact that he is causing a very useful disruption in the previously neocon driven GOP.
 
It is amazing to me that anyone on this forum doesn't see how useful Trump is for destroying the grip of Bill Kristol. We don't really know how lame or bad Trump might be as president, but we do know that Bill Kristol is a major enemy of liberty and the constitution. The fact that Trump is not a libertarian doesn't change the fact that he is causing a very useful disruption in the previously neocon driven GOP.

We are talking about the guy who just hired Chris Christie and put him in a position of authority, right?

Right...?

His campaign looks more like a Neocon Summer Jobs Program every single day.
 
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What's amazing is that you can actually bring yourself to follow up this sentence...

It is amazing to me that anyone on this forum doesn't see how useful Trump is for destroying the grip of Bill Kristol.

with this one...

We don't really know how lame or bad Trump might be as president


And not realize that you just answered your own question.

If it's so obvious how useful Trump is for destroying the grip of Bill Kristol, please tell us all how. Conspicuously you haven't told us yet.
 
I always like Eric, but I am definitely not comfortable with Trump. I had some similar thoughts until Trump came out with his official foreign policy talk and that let me know he was not a candidate that I could back.

When one side of the mouth talks about no wars but the other side talks about taking out ISIS and stabilizing the ME, and putting bigger bucks into US military operations- all the while blaming Iran- then I know that peace is no where on the agenda.

Not. For. Me.
 
I always like Eric, but I am definitely not comfortable with Trump. I had some similar thoughts until Trump came out with his official foreign policy talk and that let me know he was not a candidate that I could back.

When one side of the mouth talks about no wars but the other side talks about taking out ISIS and stabilizing the ME, and putting bigger bucks into US military operations- all the while blaming Iran- then I know that peace is no where on the agenda.

Not. For. Me.

I should alert Eric to the Vermin Supreme campaign, I reckon. :)
 
We are talking about the guy who just hired Chris Christie and put him in a position of authority, right?

Right...?

His campaign looks more like a Neocon Summer Jobs Program every single day.

There is no doubt that Christie is horrible. There also is no doubt who the boss will be and it won't be Christe or Jeb or Giuliani. He might even give Giuliani a job as well, but again Rudy won't be the boss any more than Christie will be.

I am not saying that Trump will be good or that he won't hire statists, I would be surprised if he didn't. I am saying that the top dog won't be a neocon and that is a good thing to me.


What's amazing is that you can actually bring yourself to follow up this sentence...



with this one...




And not realize that you just answered your own question.

If it's so obvious how useful Trump is for destroying the grip of Bill Kristol, please tell us all how. Conspicuously you haven't told us yet.

Regardless of how Trump might suck, he isn't a neocon and those neocons in the Kristol camp are not happy about this. Maybe you believe it is all a trick by the neocons, but I think their concern is real. The way I see it, the influence of Bill Kristol is diminishing. The voters are fed up with neocon policies and neocon politicians. Trump likely will make many many decisions that we will hate, but he will be the new driving force and that will be at the expense of the neocons. Specifically he might be less aggressive in pursuing the neocon agenda of unending wars. He might not be, but we know it is a given with all other candidates including Hilary. I might be wrong, but I don't think Trump is a Trotskyist, I think he is a capitalist.
 
From the OP's comment section:

BrentP
May 10, 2016 at 10:19 am

I can’t bring myself to vote. Unless the LP can present someone worth the ten minutes of my time to walk two blocks to the polling place I’m staying home. I like the trouble Trump has caused but Trump is running to be dear leader and I don’t want a leader.

Trump is going mainstream one bit at a time. He’s being shaped into what the so-called elite wants. (Which will keep him above room temperature.) The worst of this so far is that he is promising to continue ZIRP. ZIRP (and it’s brother NIRP) are the cornerstones of bringing about the hand-to-mouth rental economy. Where we own nothing. Everything is rented one way or another. It is to make it so we can never have that ‘f-u’ money and ownership of the capital requirements to live to walk away from the system. Which is BTW the real reason for Obamacare IMO. To make is so we have to work (in the system) to pay the high premiums. They are trying to make everyone’s monthly rental so damn high we can’t save up the capital to free ourselves. A company town writ large.

This man has it nailed.

This is where the EULA regulated rental society is taking us.

A cashless form of indentured servitude, where you will never, ever be able to "buy" your freedom.
 
What's amazing is that you can actually bring yourself to follow up this sentence...



with this one...




And not realize that you just answered your own question.

If it's so obvious how useful Trump is for destroying the grip of Bill Kristol, please tell us all how. Conspicuously you haven't told us yet.

I also think that Ron Paul is right with this opinion:
Bill Kristol's Third Party Talk "Just A Dream," He Will Support Hillary Clinton In The End
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._a_dream_he_will_support_hillary_clinton.html

When Kristol comes out for Hilary Clinton, there will be no remaining doubt as to how "conservative" the Trotskyists are. I very much look forward to the neocons exposing themselves as liberals in the GOP.
 
There is no doubt that Christie is horrible. There also is no doubt who the boss will be and it won't be Christe or Jeb or Giuliani. He might even give Giuliani a job as well, but again Rudy won't be the boss any more than Christie will be.

I am not saying that Trump will be good or that he won't hire statists, I would be surprised if he didn't. I am saying that the top dog won't be a neocon and that is a good thing to me.




Regardless of how Trump might suck, he isn't a neocon and those neocons in the Kristol camp are not happy about this. Maybe you believe it is all a trick by the neocons, but I think their concern is real. The way I see it, the influence of Bill Kristol is diminishing. The voters are fed up with neocon policies and neocon politicians. Trump likely will make many many decisions that we will hate, but he will be the new driving force and that will be at the expense of the neocons. Specifically he might be less aggressive in pursuing the neocon agenda of unending wars. He might not be, but we know it is a given with all other candidates including Hilary. I might be wrong, but I don't think Trump is a Trotskyist, I think he is a capitalist.

Notice the way I ended the post you just quoted:
If it's so obvious how useful Trump is for destroying the grip of Bill Kristol, please tell us all how. Conspicuously you haven't told us yet.

It is still just as conspicuous that you still haven't told us.

If it's so obvious, then why is it so hard for you to tell us?
 
I also think that Ron Paul is right with this opinion:
Bill Kristol's Third Party Talk "Just A Dream," He Will Support Hillary Clinton In The End
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._a_dream_he_will_support_hillary_clinton.html

When Kristol comes out for Hilary Clinton, there will be no remaining doubt as to how "conservative" the Trotskyists are. I very much look forward to the neocons exposing themselves as liberals in the GOP.

Trump came out for Clinton and exposed himself as a liberal decades ago, and now he is the GOP frontrunner.
 
There is no doubt that Christie is horrible. There also is no doubt who the boss will be and it won't be Christe or Jeb or Giuliani. He might even give Giuliani a job as well, but again Rudy won't be the boss any more than Christie will be.

I am not saying that Trump will be good or that he won't hire statists, I would be surprised if he didn't. I am saying that the top dog won't be a neocon...

So, you're basically saying his finance chair is Goldman Sachs and probably a neocon, his chief of staff is a neocon, his whole cabinet is liable to be full of neocons, a fair number of his endorsements came from neocons, some of his money comes from neocons, he talks about conquering the whole of the Middle East and taking the oil like a neocon, he's as liberal otherwise as a neocon, he waddles like a neocon, he quacks like a neocon, but he isn't a neocon so it's all good?

I think this conversation belongs in the religion subforum.
 
Notice the way I ended the post you just quoted:


It is still just as conspicuous that you still haven't told us.

If it's so obvious, then why is it so hard for you to tell us?

I just did in my last post. I can't help you comprehend what I wrote.


Trump came out for Clinton and exposed himself as a liberal decades ago, and now he is the GOP frontrunner.

As we know, GOP voter have no problem voting for liberals as long as they call themselves Republicans. Just 4 years ago they nominated the man behind Romneycare. Isn't this the problem in America? The voters get two wings of the same progressive Republicrat machine in every election. I don't think there is anyone on this forum that doesn't see how Trump is not a conservative like Ron Paul.


So, you're basically saying his finance chair is Goldman Sachs and probably a neocon, his chief of staff is a neocon, his whole cabinet is liable to be full of neocons, a fair number of his endorsements came from neocons, some of his money comes from neocons, he talks about conquering the whole of the Middle East and taking the oil like a neocon, he's as liberal otherwise as a neocon, he waddles like a neocon, he quacks like a neocon, but he isn't a neocon so it's all good?

I think this conversation belongs in the religion subforum.

He might very well put those people in place, I don't know because he hasn't won the job yet and I really don't put much credence into anything that Trump says. I am really taking a wait and see approach because Trump looks to me like he is capable of saying anything in any given hour and then saying the opposite later that same day.

I don't think he is the neocon that you are making him out to be. If he were, I really doubt that Bill Kristol would be so unhappy about him winning the nomination. Is it your belief that Bill Kristol is playing a big trick on us?
 
I just did in my last post. I can't help you comprehend what I wrote.

Try to be more honest. I read and comprehended all of your posts.

In your first you said, "It is amazing to me that anyone on this forum doesn't see how useful Trump is for destroying the grip of Bill Kristol."

So you're not just claiming that there's some pie in the sky hope that he might not pursue Kristol's policy prescriptions as much as someone else might, but that he is useful for destroying Kristol's grip and that this is so obvious that it's amazing that anyone else can't see it.

Nowhere have you in any post you've made come remotely close to showing how this is the case.
 
Try to be more honest. I read and comprehended all of your posts.

In your first you said, "It is amazing to me that anyone on this forum doesn't see how useful Trump is for destroying the grip of Bill Kristol."

So you're not just claiming that there's some pie in the sky hope that he might not pursue Kristol's policy prescriptions as much as someone else might, but that he is useful for destroying Kristol's grip and that this is so obvious that it's amazing that anyone else can't see it.

Nowhere have you in any post you've made come remotely close to showing how this is the case.

I am sharing my observations and opinions. I have no obligation to prove some case to you beyond a reasonable doubt.

Ron Paul himself thinks that Bill Kristol prefers Hilary Clinton over Donald Trump and I agree with him. Feel free to disagree with us.

 
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