Economic sanctions are an act of war – Ron Paul

[Natural Citizen]

Economic sanctions are an act of war – Ron Paul

Great interview with the statesman here.





Transcript... http://rt.com/shows/sophieco/sanctions-war-ron-paul-769/

 

[DaninPA]

I was reminded of the chanting in '08...

"Paul speaks truth! Paul speaks truth!..."

*Goes to watch For Liberty for the zillionth time.

 

[Cabal]

Inb4tehCollinz

 

[Natural Citizen]

Inb4tehCollinz

I haven't had the pleasure of debating the fact that sanctions are an act of war with him but had seen him short sell geo-political relevance on another thread when the notion came up. This is especially true given the fact that we live in the Information Age (think intelligence spying and international finance clearing to name a couple of recent developments as nations scatter and align in a manner that creates independence from western trade/economics). Matt's logic is the product of Industrial Age thinking. Combined with a sort of American Idolesque perception of politics. He's too far out of his league to make such arguments and think that they'll stick in the real world if he's going to continue the argument I'd read elswhere on it. Seems like a nice enough feller though so...is what it is, I suppose. It's nothing personal, I just think he's bringing Checkers to a 4-D Chess game.

You know, cabal, that WWIII could come into fruition right under our noses and we'd never even see it happening. War doesn't always have to be about bullets, bombs and the bestest naval fleet. International finances are managed in space. So it's also important to remain watchful of this particular spending here at home as well as abroad. Specifically mergers in space programs and weasel words like "cyber-security". "Cyber-security" is just a means of militarizing/privatizing space in a way that such financial clearing can be monitored on the international level. Heh...space war...

 

[FindLiberty]

It sure worked as intended with Japan back in the 1940's.

Now, we'll see if we get some noticeable results soon enough.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Now, we'll see if we get some noticeable results soon enough.

It's certainly no irony that some political speakers have backed off of the whole Russian sanctions gag. It gets very little mainstream press now. And I don' think it's something that they knew to do, I think that it was something that they were asked/told to do given the re-organization efforts of foreign (specifically BRICSA) nations.

Here is just one example of outcomes regarding what Ron was saying about sanctioning nations and trade aside from the obvious which is natural gas and oil.

Russia will not import GMO products - PM Medvedev - Western Agribusiness along with the economic hitmen in which they align are the largest producers/enforcers of genetically modified food "stuff" in the world and it's important to note that these BRICSA nations are also the largest producers of non GMO healthy food. Of course, this is just the first thing that popped into my head because it's something I've spent a great deal of time analyzing of late but it's something that is compounded 10 fold as a result of the sanctions on Russia (who have already begun in house finance clearing and are aligning with these competitive BRICSA nations as well in that particular regard toward an international yet independent model of clearing).

What we see though is unfortunate because blowback for the actions of these nations is coming from western agribusiness elites in the industry and their favorite political representatives/think tanks and they seem to be planting their feet firmly within the American political infrastructure in a way that the people have very little say so. This is also a move to force TPP (which is essentially nothing less that making it legal for American corporations to invade the sovereignty of foreign nations) without any platform for the people to reject the stronghold on this area of infrastructure while also enforcing American consumption...which is still up for debate because of the health issues associated with these products. Technically, this practice is a violation of human rights itself. - Koch ally to introduce Monsanto-backed bill to bar state GMO labeling laws

 

[green73]

Inb4tehCollinz

 

[Occam's Banana]

I haven't had the pleasure of debating the fact that sanctions are an act of war with him [...]

The only things you'll get from Matt in any "debate" on this subject will boil down to:
(1) "You are wrong and I am right."
(2) "A bunch of international lawyers say so."
and/or
(3) some links to https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com.

(I have danced around this particular maypole with Teh Collinz several times, so I know whereof I speak.)

 

[green73]

The only things you'll get from Matt in any "debate" on this subject will boil down to:
(1) "You are wrong and I am right."
(2) "A bunch of international lawyers say so."
and/or
(3) some links to https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com.

(I have danced around this particular maypole with Teh Collinz several times, so I know whereof I speak.)

lulz

 

[Natural Citizen]

The only things you'll get from Matt in any "debate" on this subject will boil down to:
(1) "You are wrong and I am right."
(2) "A bunch of international lawyers say so."
and/or
(3) some links to https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com.

(I have danced around this particular maypole with Teh Collinz several times, so I know whereof I speak.)

Yeah, there's nothing to be had anyhow by arguing over it. I was just kind of responding to cabal because I remember reading that discussion you mention and I thought it was funny the way that he posted that. I've been reminded that it's preferred practice to bite ones tongue when referencing people directly so I'm not challenging Collins or his view on it, per se. I already know that he's wrong. And he probably does as well so I understand why he says what he says. The script for changing the course of history often does contradict ones focus on just trying to get elected. I get that.

 

[Vanguard101]

It's true but rarely do they ever lead to war.

 

[Natural Citizen]

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