Early retirement is an act of selfishness

[acroso]

Funny, dumb article by the left.

 

[mavtek]

Actually I say, Government, Boomers and their stupidity relying on government, and lastly those under 40 who have been totally apathetic during our ride to this problem.

I for one say retire whenever you like if you don't need medicare or social security to do it.

 

[acroso]

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Actually I say, Government, Boomers and their stupidity relying on government, and lastly those under 40 who have been totally apathetic during our ride to this problem.

I for one say retire whenever you like if you don't need medicare or social security to do it.

I agree. Of course the left wants everyone to be a slave to the state. I think that was the general thesis of the article.

 

[Kade]

Funny, dumb article by the left.

The article was pretty good... what do you find so horrible about it?

 

[Kludge]

The article was pretty good... what do you find so horrible about it?

It argued that people inherently owe their labor to the country and that Americans have a duty to be unselfish.

 

[Kade]

It argued that people inherently owe their labor to the country and that Americans have a duty to be unselfish.

That wasn't at all the point of the article Kludge. He made a strong case for pushing Social Security benefits to closer to 80. He suggests that people should work longer and that those that don't, without good reason, are being selfish. He's right.

It was a suggestion on saving the country money, not a dictum. Quit reading things like you guys don't understand persuasive essays. Seriously, GET OVER YOUR ABSOLUTISM!!!

Jesus.

 

[Kludge]

It argued that people inherently owe their labor to the country and that Americans have a duty to be unselfish.

• "there's just something - make that lots of things - wrong, in general, with retiring at 55, 62 or even 65. I would go so far as to call it profoundly selfish and unpatriotic."

• "For individuals, working longer can mean more income and savings and something to bequeath to one's children." Not their duty

• For everyone's good, Americans should at least be able to work as long as their shorter-lived, poorer grandparents did. Should be fixed by eliminating the Welfare State - not by forcing others to work longer.

 

[votefreedomfirst]

Wait...some people are looking out for their own interests and not sacrificing their happiness for abstract collectivist notions? How horrible! It’s almost as if they think we live in a free country.

 

[Kade]

Wait...some people are looking out for their own interests and not sacrificing their happiness for abstract collectivist notions? How horrible! It’s almost as if they think we live in a free country.

You guys are looking at this in a completely shallow and moronic way... seriously, get your heads of your asses for a second.

 

[Kade]

• "there's just something - make that lots of things - wrong, in general, with retiring at 55, 62 or even 65. I would go so far as to call it profoundly selfish and unpatriotic."

• "For individuals, working longer can mean more income and savings and something to bequeath to one's children." Not their duty

• For everyone's good, Americans should at least be able to work as long as their shorter-lived, poorer grandparents did. Should be fixed by eliminating the Welfare State - not by forcing others to work longer.

And raising the age of social security won't help towards that goal?

 

[acroso]

I support people's right to retire whenever they want without the government paying for them.

 

[Kludge]

And raising the age of social security won't help towards that goal?

I suppose it may... But it virtually forces people to work longer (if they manage to live) if they seek to recover the money they put in to the corrupt system while it exists (if it exists when they retire)

Social Security needs to be eliminated.

Edit: Eliminated by leaving those in the workforce eligible and paying into SS while taking those not yet in the workforce out of SS.

 

[tmosley]

I suppose it may... But it virtually forces people to work longer (if they manage to live) if they seek to recover the money they put in to the corrupt system while it exists (if it exists when they retire)

Social Security needs to be eliminated.

Yeah, it would be good if they would cut down the contribution by a lot and raise the retirement age to 90 or so, which maps nicely to the original retirement date, which was well over the average lifespan of Americans at the time.

 

[hopeforamerica]

I support people's right to retire whenever they want without the government paying for them.

+1

 

[libertarian4321]

That wasn't at all the point of the article Kludge. He made a strong case for pushing Social Security benefits to closer to 80. He suggests that people should work longer and that those that don't, without good reason, are being selfish. He's right.

It was a suggestion on saving the country money, not a dictum. Quit reading things like you guys don't understand persuasive essays. Seriously, GET OVER YOUR ABSOLUTISM!!!

Jesus.

I have a good reason for retiring early. I prefer to spend my time doing volunteer work- whether for Ron Paul, Habitat for Humanity, the local animal shelter, and many others- rather than pushing papers in an office for $80,000/year.

Does that make me selfish?

BTW, this 27 year Army veteran doesn't feel he needs to be lectured on Patriotism by some twit who is an assistant history professor and former "style and culture" newspaper columnist...

 

[SnappleLlama]

BTW, this 27 year Army veteran doesn't feel he needs to be lectured on Patriotism by some twit who is an assistant history professor and former "style and culture" newspaper columnist...

Say what?

 

[Alex Libman]

This is so USSR! They used to have retarded collectivist slogans everywhere.

What's next, "By Thoroughly Chewing Your Food You Benefit The Society"

 

[Truth Warrior]

Factoid #1: 12,000+ Boomers on average turn 50 every day.

Factoid #2: In addition to the above, 12,000+ Boomers on average now turn 60 every day, also.

These demographic phenomena will be continuing for several more years.

In a number of ways, demographics is destiny.<IMHO>

 

[mediahasyou]

Coercive social programs are selfish.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Coercive social programs are selfish.

Write to your Congress critters and tell them that.