[Drone Attack] Massive Escalation in the Russia-Ukraine War

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[spudea]

If I were Putin, nuke kiev asap

 

[Toomer Deplorable]

CIA…errr…I mean SBU seems eager to tripwire WWIII.

 

[A. Havnes]

If I were Putin, nuke kiev asap

Yeah, this sounds like a bad move on Ukraine's part. Excellent, sneaky tactic. The consequences? Probably something they don't want because Putin's not going to mess around after this. This isn't ending the war, it's going to make it worse.

They probably thought it would go down like Israel's stealth attack. What Ukraine doesn't realize is that they aren't considered God's chosen, and therefore, they have to face the consequences of their dumb actions.

 

[nikcers]

In one of the largest aerial attacks since the war began, Russia launched 250 Shahed drones and 14 ballistic missiles at Kyiv overnight on May 23, injuring 15 civilians and damaging residential buildings.

Russia rains hell on Ukraine amid major POWs swap; massive drone, ballistic missile attack on Kyiv

In one of the largest aerial attacks since the war began, Russia launched 250 Shahed drones and 14 ballistic missiles at Kyiv overnight on May 23, injuring 15 civilians and damaging residential buildings. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky called it a 'tough night' and urged for more...

m.economictimes.com

 

[nikcers]

What Vladimir Putin doesn’t realize is that if it weren’t for me, lots of really bad things would have already happened to Russia, and I mean REALLY BAD. He’s playing with fire!

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114580564427808609

 

[Brian4Liberty]

...What Ukraine doesn't realize is that they aren't considered God's chosen, and therefore, they have to face the consequences of their dumb actions.

IDK about that. Kind of the opposite. Consider Ukraine and Israel as the same, and things will make more sense.

 

[vita3]

Shit seems to be really escalating

 

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[Brian4Liberty]

If I were Putin, nuke kiev asap

Putin has restrained himself from going all out and destroying Kiev and potentially killing Zelensky.

That may change now. I assume that Russia has their own version of a MOAB, and wouldn't be surprised to see that dropped right on Zelensky.

 

[acptulsa]

That may change now. I assume that Russia has their own version of a MOAB, and wouldn't be surprised to see that dropped right on Zelensky.

I can't imagine the Russian population putting up with anything less. Especially in light of these shenanigans...

Collapses of two bridges in Russia were sabotage – investigators

Both a passenger and a freight train have derailed in Bryansk and Kursk Regions, resulting in multiple fatalities

www.rt.com

"The collapses of two bridges that caused train derailments in Russia’s Bryansk and Kursk Regions were due to sabotage, the national Investigative Committee has said.

"On Saturday evening, a bridge fell in front of a moving train in Bryansk Region, killing seven people and injuring 71 others. Several hours later, early on Sunday, a railway bridge collapsed under a moving freight train in Kursk Region, leaving the driver and two of his assistants wounded.

"The Investigative Committee said in a statement on Sunday that the bridges had been “blown up” in both incidents.

"Criminal cases have been launched over the bridge collapses and will be investigated by experts from the agency’s Main Investigations Directorate, it said.

"Representatives of the Investigative Committee are currently working at the sites of the two derailments in order to establish all of the circumstances, the agency added.

"Earlier in the day, the acting governor of Kursk, Aleksandr Khinshteyn, said that a railway bridge in the region had gone down as a freight train was crossing it.

"Some of the train cars fell onto a highway passing under the bridge, while most of the train remained on the tracks, he said.

 

[ClaytonB]

Yeah, this sounds like a bad move on Ukraine's part. Excellent, sneaky tactic. The consequences? Probably something they don't want because Putin's not going to mess around after this. This isn't ending the war, it's going to make it worse.

They probably thought it would go down like Israel's stealth attack. What Ukraine doesn't realize is that they aren't considered God's chosen, and therefore, they have to face the consequences of their dumb actions.

When Ukrainian insurrectionists toppled the democratically elected government of Ukraine in 2014, in cooperation with NATO assets, Putin punished them by annexing Crimea. When they started making material moves to join NATO, Putin punished them further by annexing Donbass. Those were provocations committed outside of Russia's borders. How will Russia respond to this attack inside its borders? Whatever their response will be, I'm quite confident that it's not going to be something that CIA/NATO has thought of and prepared for. I'm just hoping they don't launch nukes because, technically, this was a nuclear attack by virtue of targeting nuclear strategic military assets. If Russian intelligence cooperated with MS-13 to strike US nuclear strategic assets on US soil, Washington would absolutely consider nuclear retaliation to be "on the table". Let's hope Russia doesn't punish all of America for the folly of a few CIA yahoos running rampant in Ukraine...

 

[ClaytonB]

Consider Ukraine and Israel as the same, and things will make more sense.

Can you expand on that? How does that clarify the pieces on the board? (Genuinely asking.)

 

[nikcers]

Can you expand on that? How does that clarify the pieces on the board? (Genuinely asking.)

Ukraine and Israel are both backed by the United States.

The USA backed Ukraines independence when Bill Clinton went to Ukraine in the 90s.

I think it was Truman that backed Israel's independence.

Both countries declared independence and were backed by and recognized by the United States.

 

[ClaytonB]

Ukraine and Israel are both backed by the United States.

The USA backed Ukraines independence when Bill Clinton went to Ukraine in the 90s.

I think it was Truman that backed Israel's independence.

Both countries declared independence and were backed by and recognized by the United States.

OK.

Well, there is still a categorical difference between the two. Israel is huge on a scale that Ukraine could never be. If Israel comes under attack by anybody for any reason, there will be a world coalition on a scale that would put the WW2 Allies to shame. It will unite practically the entire world, including a 90+% American super-majority, to fight against whoever is attacking them. So, there is a categorical difference between the two, because one is a purely political entity, whereas the State of Israel is, at root, a politico-religious entity that can move not millions, but billions of people to support its cause.

 

[nikcers]

OK.

Well, there is still a categorical difference between the two. Israel is huge on a scale that Ukraine could never be. If Israel comes under attack by anybody for any reason, there will be a world coalition on a scale that would put the WW2 Allies to shame. It will unite practically the entire world, including a 90+% American super-majority, to fight against whoever is attacking them. So, there is a categorical difference between the two, because one is a purely political entity, whereas the State of Israel is, at root, a politico-religious entity that can move not millions, but billions of people to support its cause.

They are both receiving military assistance from a super power.

We used to have these sorts of proxy conflicts during the cold war.

If one side was backed by a global super power their military would surely be able to fight off an invasion from any country that isn't a military super power.

The USA is the only military super power. If you include its alliances it is considered a military hyper power.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Can you expand on that? How does that clarify the pieces on the board? (Genuinely asking.)

Consider both to be fully backed by neoconservatives, and thus, the MIC.

What if I told you that Ukraine is part of Greater Israel? Consider that to be the goal in the eyes of many neo-conservatives. This explains the undying and fanatical support of Ukraine by neoconservatives in the US. It is identical to what support is for Israel, for many of the same reasons.

Now if you look at it from the perspective of US dispensationalist Christians, yes, they are in the dark as to this connection, although it is quite ironic as Dispensationalism and Zionism go together like peas and carrots. So they might not have the identical reaction to attacks on Ukraine that they have about attacks on Israel.

Take a look at this thread for some historical context:

Zelenskyy wants Ukraine to be ‘a big Israel.’ Here’s a road map.​

Or this:

It's actually an interesting subject.

More on dispensationalism:



My loose definition of those who follow dispensationalism includes many people who don't even know what it is. Similar to how many Marxists of today have no clue that they are implementing Marxist ideology, techniques and tactics.

The sentence quoted and bolded above summarizes it pretty well. It is Christianity that was introduced to rapture and end times teachings. Probably not coincidently, Zionism was introduced and evolved together with dispensationalism. Both originated in the 1800s. First there were the "Christians" like John Nelson Darby who initiated the dispensationalist movements, and many waves of subsequent teachers of the philosophy such as Hal Lindsey. At nearly the same time, Jewish intellectuals in Ukraine decided that Zionism (return to ancient Israel) was possible, and proto-Zionism originated.

The rest, as they say, is history.

Thus today, you have Christians like Noem who have been taught that Zionism and focus on Israel is part of their "Christian" religion, and part of their duty. It makes it pretty easy for Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell to get whatever they want, as long as they offer the Israel funding carrot to Noem or Mike Johnson.

 

[acptulsa]

Consider both...

Interesting analysis. The AI bot presumed to read your mind, but failed miserably.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Interesting analysis. The AI bot presumed to read your mind, but failed miserably.

All original I assure you. My own hypothesis, based upon crazy, fringe, conspiracy sources like lectures by Rabbis and Jewish historical scholars.

I suppose I could write my own paper and title it "How Israel was created as a result of Christian dispensationalism" or "Israel was born in Odessa, Ukraine".

 

[nikcers]

Interesting analysis. The AI bot presumed to read your mind, but failed miserably.

Not necessarily. I merely presented what's commonly understood and that Ukraine is part of the free world.

That encompasses much of Europe and North America and Japan and South Korea and Israel.

These are the democracy countries that emerged from World War 2.

Zellenskyy saying that Ukraine can become a bigger Israel doesn't necessarily mean that its part of greater Israel.

Israel is simply a state where it's safe to be Jewish. After the Holocaust happened it has been a safe haven.

Its Russia who seems to want to create a "Greater Russia" and build out a "sphere of influence".

Russia refers to regions that were historically part of the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union, which Russian nationalists regard as part of the "Russian world".