Doug Wead: Ron Paul delegates not welcome in Tampa

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Remember all of those hard fought victories? Thousands of people who gave up their time and money to attend precinct caucuses? And then faced coordinated attacks at District and County Conventions, where threatened establishment Party hacks had hired thugs ready to arrest them? Sometimes the very new Country Chairman, duly elected to replace them?

Remember all of that?

And we won some of those battles and people were saying, don’t be a defeatist Doug, we can still win enough states to get him nominated in Tampa and thus galvanize the nation behind his message. And they were right if it had been fair and it had happened naturally but there was always this, that the cheating that was experienced on a local level, often happens at the national level too and so we have come to that moment, the one that I have been warning you about.

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http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/rnc-ron-paul-delegates-not-welcome-in-tampa/
 
He has like 3 or 4 people who make his comment sections their home away from home.
 
Wead should replace Bentan.

Remember how worried people were about Wead in the beginning, coming from a neocon background?

I feel like him and Benton are playing good cop/bad cop with the grassroots sometimes. Have no idea what the strategy is, but either way no reason for the grassroots to back off.
 
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There was no cheating in Kentucky, we just got our butt's kicked.

yeah but the campaign had already sent out their discouraging email and Doug had already written his 'Son also rises' article essentially saying 'look past this to the next one'.

The bus some of us feel thrown under started on the road earlier.
 
Remember how worried people were about him in the beginning, coming from a neocon background?

I feel like him and Benton are playing good cop/bad cop with the grassroots sometimes. Have no idea what the strategy is, but either way no reason for the grassroots to back off.

I feel like Doug has a much better finger on the pulse of the grass roots and tries to speak to our concerns and Benton has an entirely 'Politics 101' mentality such as Matt Collins declaims here. Unfortunately, there was never a group of supporters that bought into the tactics or goals of 'Politics 101' less than this group. That is WHY we are Ron Paul supporters.
 
In Indiana they actually threw out all our votes by refusing to let the delegates we voted for cast their votes. That denies all voters the right to vote. Most people in Indiana have no clue that their votes were thrown in the trash.
 
In Indiana they actually threw out all our votes by refusing to let the delegates we voted for cast their votes. That denies all voters the right to vote. Most people in Indiana have no clue that their votes were thrown in the trash.

I hope you communicated that to the campaign.
 
In Indiana they actually threw out all our votes by refusing to let the delegates we voted for cast their votes. That denies all voters the right to vote. Most people in Indiana have no clue that their votes were thrown in the trash.

Can you possibly get us a detailed fact statement of what happened by someone who was there? and include names of the GOP types who did things if you have them.
 
I feel like Doug has a much better finger on the pulse of the grass roots and tries to speak to our concerns and Benton has an entirely 'Politics 101' mentality such as Matt Collins declaims here. Unfortunately, there was never a group of supporters that bought into the tactics or goals of 'Politics 101' less than this group. That is WHY we are Ron Paul supporters.
Politics is human nature, you have to work through it, there is no choice in that. :rolleyes: The sooner people in the movement acknowledge that fact of life, the sooner we can be more effective in winning back our liberty.
 
Politics is human nature, you have to work through it, there is no choice in that. :rolleyes: The sooner people in the movement acknowledge that fact of life, the sooner we can be more effective in winning back our liberty.

You mean the sooner people agree with you, which assumes they will agree that one should meld in rather than change the approach. Or, more accurately, some think melding beyond a certain point is giving up too much and planting the seeds of self defeat and cooption. If you can't stand up for your principles you can hardly convince others.
 
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You mean the sooner people agree with you, which assumes they will agree that one should meld in rather than change the approach. Or, more accurately, some think melding beyond a certain point is giving up too much and planting the seeds of self defeat and cooption. If you can't stand up for your principles you can hardly convince others.

What? He never said that. Nor did Ron.
 
Politics is human nature, you have to work through it, there is no choice in that. :rolleyes: The sooner people in the movement acknowledge that fact of life, the sooner we can be more effective in winning back our liberty.

Methinks you need to differentiate between electoral politics, legislative politics, and the more general definition you are conflating here
 
yeah but the campaign had already sent out their discouraging email and Doug had already written his 'Son also rises' article essentially saying 'look past this to the next one'.

The bus some of us feel thrown under started on the road earlier.

We lost in the county and district conventions long before the stuff you mentioned.
 
We lost in the county and district conventions long before the stuff you mentioned.

we sure hadn't lost nomination at the floor at convention with a hot spotlight platform for RON, and imho would have overwhelming support for that beyond argument. His delegates always had been fighting for a fitting -- on our own strength -- spotlight to highlight Ron's lifetime success (not a patronizing 'tribute video) as a secondary goal, giving Ron the ability to use his unequaled talent as Pied Piper for liberty to reach the highest world wide audience. More states than we have now were very close, and Super Tuesday hadn't even occurred before this started.
 
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RNC: Ron Paul delegates not welcome in Tampa - Doug Wead Blog

RNC: Ron Paul delegates not welcome in Tampa
http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/rnc-ron-paul-delegates-not-welcome-in-tampa/

Remember all of those hard fought victories? Thousands of people who gave up their time and money to attend precinct caucuses? And then faced coordinated attacks at District and County Conventions, where threatened establishment Party hacks had hired thugs ready to arrest them? Sometimes the very new Country Chairman, duly elected to replace them?

Remember all of that?

And we won some of those battles and people were saying, don’t be a defeatist Doug, we can still win enough states to get him nominated in Tampa and thus galvanize the nation behind his message. And they were right if it had been fair and it had happened naturally but there was always this, that the cheating that was experienced on a local level, often happens at the national level too and so we have come to that moment, the one that I have been warning you about.

Here is the message coming out of Headquarters tonight:

The Committee on Contests recently issued a ruling on the establishment’s challenge to Ron Paul’s delegates and alternates who were duly elected in Maine, and on our challenges to the outright cheating that occurred in Louisiana, Massachusetts, and Oregon (alternates only).

Despite Ron Paul’s supporters being so clearly in the right in these four states, the establishment is so far refusing to rule fairly and seat our duly elected delegates and/or alternates.

Here’s a brief summary of the bogus challenge made by the GOP establishment against us in Maine, as well as our challenges to the cheating that occurred elsewhere:

In Maine, where Ron Paul supporters held a clear majority at the State Convention, the establishment is attempting to unseat the state’s duly elected delegates and alternates – acting like sore losers in the process. The challenge to our delegates in Maine is so bogus that Republican Governor Paul LePage – who is one of the few delegates not being challenged by the establishment – has declared he will not attend the Republican National Convention unless Ron Paul’s delegates and alternates who were duly elected are seated;

In Louisiana, establishment “big wigs” used threats, intimidation, and force – literally smashing the bones of one gentleman – to shut out Ron Paul supporters who had a clear majority at the State Convention;

In Oregon, the State Chairman blatantly ignored the votes of the Convention, taking it upon himself to replace the duly elected alternate delegates with an “appointed” slate chocked-full of establishment cronies;

In Mitt Romney’s home state of Massachusetts, corrupt Party officials changed the rules after the game was over – kicking out Ron Paul’s duly elected delegates and alternates and replacing them with their hand-picked cronies.

As you can see, the Old Guard establishment doesn’t care about cheating, lying, abuse of process, and high-handedness in our Party.

All they seem to care about is maintaining their iron grip over the Republican Party.

But Ron Paul’s number-one goal for the RNC is making sure his delegates and alternates who deserve to be seated in Tampa are credentialed.

So if the establishment wants a fight in Tampa, rest assured we’re going to give them one.

Currently, our campaign lawyers and staff are furiously working to analyze and craft the appropriate response to the Committee’s rulings, and we’ll be sure to keep you informed as we move forward in the process.

And believe me, we will not sit idly by and watch the establishment run roughshod over Ron Paul’s supporters who were illegally railroaded by the GOP.

We will stand up and fight for all of Ron Paul’s delegates and/or alternates in these four states – and we will not back down.

Of course, one would think the Romney campaign would want these conflicts resolved so they didn’t become major issues at the Convention.

But so far they’ve sat idly by on the sidelines.

Hopefully they’ll change their do-nothing approach once they realize we’re serious about going all-out to win these credentials battles.

And remember, nearly 90 major media outlets have already reserved a spot at our “We are the Future Rally.”

So if the GOP goes through with these bogus challenges, they won’t be able to hide behind their iron curtain. They will be exposed by the press.

The good news is, the Committee on Contests’ ruling is not the final word in this fight.

The battle will be decided by the Credentials Committee in Tampa – where we are very organized and prepared to take action.

As the battle rages on over the next two weeks, I’ll be sure to keep you updated on our progress and any new developments that occur along the way.
 
This is what you call BLOWBACK. Pissed Ron Paulers going ape shit and the MSM showing these TROUBLE MAKERS (us) causing problems at TAMPA. When Republicans watch the box in their living room, they gonna say, they attack us because we are good people. This is why we need Ron Paul to speak, we need the poeple to hear the truth, we need to fight tooth and nail to make sure this happens.
 
This is accomplishing one thing that the RNC can do nothing about: it shows just how deeply corrupted the RNC truly is. Every level of this election has been an uphill battle against those that make the rules, and when they dont like the outcome, they simply change the rules to disqualify us. It should show even to non Ron Paul supporters that their voice doesnt matter if they are not voting for who the Rule Makers have told them to vote for. It should also reflect that the people who are given the nomination are not given the nomination by the will of the people, but by those in power. The Corruption extends itself to nearly every level of every campaign, althogh not every elected position gets anywhere nearly the influence that the Predidential Election has. It should now be more obvious to every single person on the planet now more than any other time that our so called "Democracy" and "Election Process" are nothing more than a giant LIE.
 
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