Don't waste your vote: vote for someone who is actually on the ballot

dvdrink

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I support Paul and hope he gets as many delegates as possible. However I don't see the GOP warmongers giving him a speaking role at the convention. I only see them continuing to try to marginalize us.

In the LP I'm voting for Barr and hope everyone else will support the Libertarian candidate in November as well. While I think writing in "Ron Paul" is honorable, in reality it won't do any good. Write-in's are not even counted. You have to be registered as a write-in candidate in order for it to even be counted.

Therefore if you write in "Ron Paul" it won't have much of an impact. A better impact for the cause of liberty would be to vote for someone who is actually on the ballot. Let's send a message for liberty that will be seen publicly and vote for someone who is actually on the ballot.
 
I agree. Your vote doesn't get counted in the % of people who threw protest votes if you vote for Paul. At least vote for Chuck Baldwin or the LP candidate who has almost identical platforms (especially Baldwin)
 
You know why Ron Paul didn't do good in the elections?

Because of this "don't waste your vote" thing.

Either you stand behind your principles or just be like any other brainwashed fuck.
 
I'll probably end up voting for Chuck Baldwin, although I'm not especially comfortable with the religious nature of the CP. I'll definitely support the LP nominee if its Ruwart, Kubby or Smith.
 
Voting for Paul in my state primary was a waste. I don't mind wasting it again in November.
 
It's never a wasted vote when you vote for someone who is ACTUALLY ON THE BALLOT. Voting for Ron Paul was never a wasted vote WHEN HE WAS ON THE BALLOT.

However, if you're writing in Ron Paul's name and he is NOT registered to be on the ballot, then you truly are wasting your vote because IT'S NOT EVEN COUNTED and you might as well be voting for Mickey Mouse.

Instead, why not vote for Baldwin or the LP candidate... candidates who will have similar platforms as Ron Paul.

Do something useful with your vote.

I'm just talking reality here, take it or leave it.
 
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Or I do what I damn well please, and vote my conscience. I will be writing in Ron Paul.
 
I agree with you dvdrink. Voting for Paul when he is not on the ballot is stupid. Its a sorry attempt at a "protest vote" because no one will ever see or hear about it, only that person will know.

Voting LP or CP is not a compromise of your principles. They essentially have the same views as Ron Paul does. By voting CP or LP, the country will be able to see the dissatisfaction of the GOP voters and changes will begin to occur. They'll have to change, or just keep losing elections.
 
Hmmm...well, my suggestion would be to use the absentee ballot option. If RP is not on the Absentee ballot, write him in anyway. And if/when they toss it out, it gets counted as a non vote. This gets tabulated and recorded. If a State gets a high percentage of 'tossed' ballots, this will get someones attention, and looking for a reason why. Media would cover this.

I plan on writing in RP. I have to live with myself.
 
I'm sick of low posters coming in here telling me who to vote for. Two in just this thread.
 
I support Paul and hope he gets as many delegates as possible. However I don't see the GOP warmongers giving him a speaking role at the convention. I only see them continuing to try to marginalize us.

In the LP I'm voting for Barr and hope everyone else will support the Libertarian candidate in November as well. While I think writing in "Ron Paul" is honorable, in reality it won't do any good. Write-in's are not even counted. You have to be registered as a write-in candidate in order for it to even be counted.

Therefore if you write in "Ron Paul" it won't have much of an impact. A better impact for the cause of liberty would be to vote for someone who is actually on the ballot. Let's send a message for liberty that will be seen publicly and vote for someone who is actually on the ballot.

Every time I see a thread with comments like this it encourages me once again to write in Ron Paul. If I really believed your philosophy I'd vote for Barack Obama because after all Barr is going to lose so that would be a wasted vote. No thanks I'll stick with the real thing which is Ron Paul.
 
Every time I see a thread with comments like this it encourages me once again to write in Ron Paul. If I really believed your philosophy I'd vote for Barack Obama because after all Barr is going to lose so that would be a wasted vote. No thanks I'll stick with the real thing which is Ron Paul.

The difference is that Bob Barr, Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin agree on almost everything. (Off the top of my head I can't think of anything they disagree on.) Imagine if the roles were reversed and Bob Barr had lost the GOP nomination and Ron Paul was on as the LP or CP candidate. I would hope Bob Barr supporters would go ahead and vote Ron Paul instead of just "sticking to their guns". And no, I'm not posting this to tell others how to vote. If you want to write in Ron Paul even though he said he's not going to run third party then write in Ron Paul. But at some point you'll have to consider other principled candidates. (2012? 2016? ... )

Regards,

John M. Drake
 
It's definitely a write-in for me as well, fortunately, I think PA actually counts those (so I hear anyways--not that it matters if that's accurate.) If only all other states were like that.
 
I agree with you dvdrink. Voting for Paul when he is not on the ballot is stupid. Its a sorry attempt at a "protest vote" because no one will ever see or hear about it, only that person will know.

Voting LP or CP is not a compromise of your principles. They essentially have the same views as Ron Paul does. By voting CP or LP, the country will be able to see the dissatisfaction of the GOP voters and changes will begin to occur. They'll have to change, or just keep losing elections.

Mods? Isn't a new anti Paul poster a violation of forum rules?
 
It's never a wasted vote when you vote for someone who is ACTUALLY ON THE BALLOT. Voting for Ron Paul was never a wasted vote WHEN HE WAS ON THE BALLOT.

However, if you're writing in Ron Paul's name and he is NOT registered to be on the ballot, then you truly are wasting your vote because IT'S NOT EVEN COUNTED and you might as well be voting for Mickey Mouse.

Instead, why not vote for Baldwin or the LP candidate... candidates who will have similar platforms as Ron Paul.

Do something useful with your vote.

I'm just talking reality here, take it or leave it.

Ill leave it, and write in Paul.
 
It would be nice if RP would endorse either the LP or CP candidate before the election, so we can all rummage our support behind one candidate, instead of being divided between several candidates and being counted as the <1% crowd.

Also, why dont the CP and LP merge as they are quite similar?
 
The CP and the LP agree on foreign policy issues and most economic issues. The area of tremendous disagreement is in the realm of personal freedoms. The CP is totally opposed to abortion whereas the majority of Libertarians are "pro-choice". The LP is also in favor of complete de-criminalization of drugs whereas the CP says it is a matter for the states. They also differ on same sex "marriage" and other issues like that. The only person who could have successfully brought the two parties together for at least one election is Dr. Paul.
 
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