"Don't Talk to the Police" / "You Have the Right to Remain Innocent"

I just broke my thread rating cherry.. didn't know about it.

I'm a yapper.. I'd have to try and change the subject to.. read any good books lately.. see any good movies.. wanna know how to tie dye? I respectfully decline to answer your incident related questions but if you'd like to know how to wire wrap jewelry or what spices to use for home made liverwurst.. ask away...
 
I just broke my thread rating cherry.. didn't know about it.

I'm a yapper.. I'd have to try and change the subject to.. read any good books lately.. see any good movies.. wanna know how to tie dye? I respectfully decline to answer your incident related questions but if you'd like to know how to wire wrap jewelry or what spices to use for home made liverwurst.. ask away...

LOL - Hope you don't ever find yourself in that situation.
 
Finished it in a couple of hours.

Excellent read, even if it is material we've covered here a million times before.
 
Best advice to take away from the book:

Do NOT try to assert your 5th Amendment rights: the clowns in gowns have so monkey fucked the how and when to use them that you'll just end up fucking yourself up.

Instead, assert your 6th Amendment right to counsel and remain silent from there.
 
Best advice to take away from the book:

Do NOT try to assert your 5th Amendment rights: the clowns in gowns have so monkey fucked the how and when to use them that you'll just end up fucking yourself up.

Instead, assert your 6th Amendment right to counsel and remain silent from there.

Thanks.

6th has and always remains the best, IMHO. When you assert the 5th then that is engaging them. Which is what they want you to do. Engagement allows them to escalate the situation depending on what you say. It is a good idea, if you can afford it (and depending, it is not very expensive and some won't even require a retainer) , to retain a lawyer and carry his card. There are some lawyers in my town that their card actually instructs the officer that they have advised their client not to speak to them until they are present.
 
How the fuck is Micheal Moore such a raging statist when he served decades in prison falsely convicted of murdering his wife after the police manipulated him into incriminating himself? It seems like anyone who went through that would KNOW how screwed up the state really is.
 
How the fuck is Micheal Moore such a raging statist when he served decades in prison falsely convicted of murdering his wife after the police manipulated him into incriminating himself? It seems like anyone who went through that would KNOW how screwed up the state really is.

You talking about MM the documentary filmmaker?

His wife is alive and well, they divorced a couple years ago, and from I can see, he's never spent a day in jail.
 
A Trumphumper who think you are a traitor for not supporting the police?

Oh I support the police. I support the police obeying the friggin' Constitution, like Bradley Rogers of Elkhart County Indiana.

The only way in the universe that the police can become beloved of the community again, now in the age of information, will be to do what the police were ALWAYS supposed to do from day one but (with rare exceptions) never did. Obey the friggin' Constitution. It's not even that hard to do, really, but they won't. And so they will continue to dig their own graves.

Just like liberal lunacy led to the kneejerk Donald Trump, this unaccountable hyper-authoritarian anti-constitutional militaristic violent policing model will inevitably lead to a push back and a kneejerk. Those of us who advocate for rational policing policies (and above all real accountability when they do in fact do wrong), are the ones advocating the only path out of a coming civil war. Our way will save thousands of police lives, but the people who worship the police no matter how evil they do, they will be responsible for the coming sociological violence that is inevitable (and already starting) if they do not change course.

It is the people who are now worshiping the police as gods who will put them into their graves, just like it was the people who worshipped Hillary and radical liberalism/feminism that put the Dems hopes for President Hillary in the grave.
 
Oh I support the police. I support the police obeying the friggin' Constitution, like Bradley Rogers of Elkhart County Indiana.

The only way in the universe that the police can become beloved of the community again, now in the age of information, will be to do what the police were ALWAYS supposed to do from day one but (with rare exceptions) never did. Obey the friggin' Constitution. It's not even that hard to do, really, but they won't. And so they will continue to dig their own graves.

Just like liberal lunacy led to the kneejerk Donald Trump, this unaccountable hyper-authoritarian anti-constitutional militaristic violent policing model will inevitably lead to a push back and a kneejerk. Those of us who advocate for rational policing policies (and above all real accountability when they do in fact do wrong), are the ones advocating the only path out of a coming civil war. Our way will save thousands of police lives, but the people who worship the police no matter how evil they do, they will be responsible for the coming sociological violence that is inevitable (and already starting) if they do not change course.

It is the people who are now worshiping the police as gods who will put them into their graves, just like it was the people who worshipped Hillary and radical liberalism/feminism that put the Dems hopes for President Hillary in the grave.

I'm not opposed to the concept of policing. But I am definitely opposed to the police forces in the USA as they currently exist. The purpose of state controlled police is the same purpose for state controlled soldiers in Kandahar- to make sure the local populace doesn't get so unruly it might think it has actual rights.

The push back has already started. These anti-police riots we keep seeing? The race riots that are happening more and more frequently? These explosions of anger and violence are what happens when a local population grow so fed up with being treated like enemies by the local occupying militant police force that they lash out.

Not to seem too conspiratorial but I doubt we'll see a deescalation any time soon. It is no accident that fascist dictatorships emerge from democracies justifying absolute power as a policing measure.
 
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