Does Ron want us to leave the GOP?

[Matt Collins]

Does Ron Paul want us to leave the GOP, or stick around and hold our ground in an attempt to win more rank-and-file Republicans over to our side?


Judging from his history, what do YOU think he would want us to do?



Obviously he stayed involved in the Republican Party and it's a good thing he did! We should do the same.

 

[RickyJ]

He wants us to do what we want to do. I heard him say so today.

 

[wgadget]

Ummmm....Stay in the GOP?

I still think he should go INDIE, for America's sake.

 

[Carehn]

He wants us to stay but my road leads me to the Libertarian party for now. I may be back in 2 years to help out again if another liberty candidate comes along. Also I have all the connections I need in my county and surrounding party. If need be I can get back in any time. Also I have some liberty to promote outside of all partys as well.

 

[acptulsa]

Does Ron Paul want us to leave the GOP, or stick around and hold our ground in an attempt to win more rank-and-file Republicans over to our side?


Judging from his history, what do YOU think he would want us to do?

Judging from his history.

Judging from his history, he would consider building the Libertarian Party into a major party the first choice, and trying to inject some integrity into the GOP second choice. Of course, he did go to Plan B. But then, on the other hand, he and we have shaken things up and Rmoney--this very day--has added a whole new layer of totalitarian stink to the already hurting GOP. So, maybe we could actually pull off his Plan A. I'll just bet it would make him happy if we did.

Oh, sorry. You're the guy who doesn't believe there was any history before you were born. You should have been more specific.

 

[Dr.3D]

I'm pretty sure he wants us to continue as he as been for so many years, and work toward bringing back the GOP to what it used to be a long, long time ago.

 

[Indy Vidual]

Ron is/was trying to change the GOP.

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Judging from ... history...

He wants us all to get paid to have sock-puppet accounts. just like you.

 

[michaelwise]

People who switched parties can always switch back.

 

[Carehn]

I don't know why its so hard for people on this forum to do more then one thing at the same time.

 

[wgadget]

Why don't you ask him, Matt. Get back to us, will ya?

I think the GOP today threw a monkey wrench into the delegate strategy.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Ron Paul always says people should do whatever they want to. There are a variety of courses of action available to us: peaceful civil disobedience, education (self-education first, then others), communication, media, culture creation, and political action. Different courses will suit different individuals. Ron just says let it not be said that we did nothing.

 

[angelatc]

Why don't you ask him, Matt. Get back to us, will ya?

I think the GOP today threw a monkey wrench into the delegate strategy.

Then we'll have to do it the old fashioned way, and win elections. Or at least get elected to the RNC rules committee, so we can change the rules back.

 

[JellyRev]

How can we stay in the GOP? The rules have turned it into a dictatorship. How exactly would delegates be won, It's one thing for Rand or Amash to win in their state but for them to have to take on the media plus Fascism. With the way this is going Lord Romney will be able to recall Rand and Amash once he is president.

To be honest the fascism I have seen this past week makes me more fearful of a Romney presidency than Obummer.

 

[Mini-Me]

How can we stay in the GOP? The rules have turned it into a dictatorship. How exactly would delegates be won, It's one thing for Rand or Amash to win in their state but for them to have to take on the media plus Fascism. With the way this is going Lord Romney will be able to recall Rand and Amash once he is president.

To be honest the fascism I have seen this past week makes me more fearful of a Romney presidency than Obummer.

Staying within the GOP isn't about fielding Republican liberty candidates and winning elections for them under the current rules. Staying within the GOP is about getting involved locally, going to meetings, and taking over your state party, then replacing the RNC with our own people. Then, we can correct the rules ourselves. In short, staying within the GOP is about replacing and becoming the GOP's leadership. It's an activist numbers game, and as long as the RNC and negative nancies don't dissuade us, we have a lot more people willing to put in the work than the establishment does.

 

[twomp]

Does Ron Paul want us to leave the GOP, or stick around and hold our ground in an attempt to win more rank-and-file Republicans over to our side?


Judging from his history, what do YOU think he would want us to do?

Did the RNC ask you to make this post? Ron Paul has said SEVERAL times that he wants us to do what we WANT to do. Seeing as you work for him, you should have known this already.

 

[randpaul2016]

for this election do what you want. For 2016 its all about Rand Paul

 

[The Gold Standard]

I don't know about Ron, but I know what your boss wants us to do.

 

[Mini-Me]

for this election do what you want. For 2016 its all about Rand Paul

If people don't get involved in the meantime, Rand will suffer the same fate as Ron. We have learned that, under the current party leadership, it is impossible for a liberty candidate to get a Presidential nomination, and it's difficult to field more than a handful of Congressional candidates...so our strategy must be to change the current leadership instead of just waiting four years for Rand. For the GOP strategy to work, we MUST get involved locally during off-years, take over committee spots and state chairs, and take over RNC positions. After that, a Presidential win will be within reach, as well as fielding enough liberty candidates to gradually take over Congress...which is both critical and impossible to do without the resources of a major party.

 

[gjdavis60]

Staying within the GOP isn't about fielding liberty candidates and winning delegates for them under the current rules. Staying within the GOP is about getting involved locally, going to meetings, and taking over your state party, then replacing the RNC with our own people. Then, we can change the rules. In short, staying within the GOP is about replacing and becoming the GOP's leadership. It's an activist numbers game, and as long as the RNC and negative nancies don't dissuade us, we have a lot more people willing to put in the work than the establishment does.

Well said. This is the only way we CAN stay in the GOP and be successful. Just showing up for "big" events like presidential campaigns will not get it done, imho.

 

[michaelwise]

I'm voting for Obama directly. Romney invented Obamacare for crying out loud.

Reason #1: Revenge on Fox/MSM/GOP for not playing fair just like in the McCain/Obama election of 2008, except this time I'm not writing in Ron Paul.

Reason #2: To get a liberty candidate elected in 2016.

Reason #3: To tell Mitt Romney/Wall Street to go fuck themselves.

Reason #4: To let the MSM know they don't get to pick our presidents anymore, the alternative media and internet does now.

Reason #5: So the democrats get to preside over the complete and total economic collapse of the USA so they can re- learn their mathematics lesson, this time the hard way.

I could go on.

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

So why not change the rules of the game and vote for the cunt hair's bit of greater evil this time by voting for Obama? There'll still be no difference in federal policy for either party.

You can't win if you don't play. Ron Paul supporters vote religiously. I usually vote against all the incumbents up for re-election on the ballot, except for one person this time around.

This comment from a participant at Zero Hedge.com;

Political implications of the future currency crisis:

FACT IS >>>>> WE ARE GOING OFF A CLIFF WITH EITHER OBAMA OR ROMNEY. It is too late to change course. And Repubs endorsing a gold standard is laughable. We are looking at a currency collapse in the next few years. As soon as we loose our reserve currency status, our rates will spike and we will be TOAST.

Given that a majority of the US public is very uneducated from an economic standpoint, they are very likely going to blame this collapse on the politics and on who is currently in office. I think we can agree that neither Obama nor Romney are going to enact measures that will prevent this collapse.

Therefore, we need to ask our selves the following: Do we want an economic collapse under an “Overt Socialist” i.e. Obama? Or do we want the collapse during the administration of a RINO that supposedly (at least in the minds of the ignorant US public) stands for Free Market Capitalism?

I am scared of a back lash against Free Market Capitalism if the Economic Collapse happens during Romney’s administration. This could very well lead to the government enacting much harsher economic controls and lead to a totalitarianism state.

But if the Economic Collapse happens during the Obama administration, then the US public will more likely see the actual writing on the wall and finally return to Free Markets.

Therefore I will be voting for the man that is the furthest from my point of view. Obama. I think a collapse in his term would be better, he will get the blame and rightly so.

Like I say; A complete and total worldwide economic collapse is a 100% mathematical certainty.

I actually do think a democrat party in power will go easier on us during the economic collapse, because the libs can scream louder than the repubs and the repub sheeple like torture more, even for themselves.


Must see video, really;

Media Military Complex- Same 6 owners for Media & Defense Ron Paul coverage investigative journ pt 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz_bjew709I&feature=plcp