Disabled Marine threatened/ejected from restaurant for wearing wrong football Jersey.

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What the hell has this nation become? Who in their right mind threatens someone in a wheelchair? I hope the Moosehead grill of Mooresville, NC restaurant goes out of business. All I know is that every minute I spent in jail banging some heads would have been worth it.

'Stop using your wheelchair as a crutch': Marine who lost legs in Afghanistan forced out of restaurant with his family after cruel taunts from rival football fans

A U.S. Marine who lost both his legs in Afghanistan was forced to leave a Charlotte restaurant with his family after local football fans hurled vile abuse at them for wearing Dallas Cowboys jerseys.

Marine Garrett Carnes, of Mooresville, North Carolina attended Sunday’s Carolina Panthers’ game against the Cowboys with his wife Courtney, their parents, and friends Brett and Nicole Coburn.
After the game, which the Cowboys won 19-14, the group stopped at the Moosehead Grill for dinner. Several members of the party, including Garrett Carnes, were proudly wearing their Dallas Cowboys jerseys.

Marine Garrett Carnes and his wife Courtney were taunted by football fans at a Charlotte restaurant on Sunday

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A group of disgruntled Panthers fans spotted their jerseys and started to taunt Carnes and his group even before they entered the restaurant.
'Courtney was the first one out of the vehicle, and while she was getting Garrett’s wheelchair, one guy immediately started yelling at her,' Brett Coburn told The Charlotte Observer.
Once in the restaurant, the Panthers fans continued to mock Carnes and his group. One person told Garrett Carnes: 'Don’t use your wheelchair as a crutch.'

Carnes, who is still undergoing treatment for his wounds at a Washington-area hospital, told them he was a veteran who had lost his legs in Afghanistan.
The situation quickly deteriorated and according to witnesses the two parties almost came to blows after one of the Panthers fans approached Carnes in a threatening manner.

Other patrons stepped in to defuse the situation, but staff asked Garrett Carnes and his party to leave. The police were called by Courtney Carnes, although no charges were filed.

Carnes’ mother, Rhonda, has since addressed a note to restaurant patrons on Facebook. She wrote: 'Why didn’t any of you stand up for my son and daughter? And to think my son almost died for every single person in that bar, by defending all your freedom.'
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Brian Coulter said:
That's some faulty genetic material right there.
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To be truthful I am sure the headline is creating controversy regarding his military service. If he were wearing a Jersey then he obviously wouldn't be wearing his uniform. I'm referring to the fact that these other patrons are simply dicks. And a restaurant that would eject this man and his family doesn't deserve mine, or the communities, patronage.
 
Weather he was a marine or not doesn't really matter to me but I think its downright disgusting that people could be so vain, stupid, emotional, and angry over a game. People that think this way have lost site of the important things in life. To disrespect someone and verbally abuse anyone and their family like that simply for wearing a uniform of an opposing team, let alone a disabled person in a wheelchair is simply disgusting. What is wrong with people?
 
Anyone who wears team/tribal/etc. jerseys/clothes/etc. and doesn't expect choice words/treatment/etc. once in a while is incredibly naive. Im not surprised he signed up to be a mercenary.
 
AGRP said:
Anyone who wears team/tribal/etc. jerseys/clothes/etc. and doesn't expect choice words/treatment/etc. once in a while is incredibly naive. Im not surprised he signed up to be a mercenary.
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Seriously? Look, it's one thing to "expect choice words" wearing the opposing team's jersey, but to get thrown out of a restaurant over it? The restaurant owner and its patrons were just butt-hurt because their team sucks and got their asses kicked!!
 
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Does the owner have a right to kick him out, sure but damn if the social blowback is not a lot more powerful.
 
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Carnes’ mother, Rhonda, has since addressed a note to restaurant patrons on Facebook. She wrote: 'Why didn’t any of you stand up for my son and daughter? And to think my son almost died for every single person in that bar, by defending all your freedom.'
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*Sigh*

First thing I did was to look and see if it was Philly. Being NC, I'm surprised. (Philly would have been no shock.)


phill4paul said:
To be truthful I am sure the headline is creating controversy regarding his military service. If he were wearing a Jersey then he obviously wouldn't be wearing his uniform. I'm referring to the fact that these other patrons are simply dicks. And a restaurant that would eject this man and his family doesn't deserve mine, or the communities, patronage.
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Agree.


AGRP said:
Anyone who wears team/tribal/etc. jerseys/clothes/etc. and doesn't expect choice words/treatment/etc. once in a while is incredibly naive.
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Also agree. I'm not afraid to walk into a biker bar where I might look (or be) out of place, but I won't be wearing a shirt that says "Bikers Suck Dick" or anything. I understand that's an extreme.

Maybe the owner threw him out for his own protection and to keep peace, and to shut people up. I would prefer the owner stood up for him and mentioned that they all had the commonality of being passionate football fans.

But also... who knows what was really happening or what the real dialogue was? Without knowing the real dialogue, we don't know anything. Maybe the former marine was escalating the situation. That wouldn't be uncommon.
 
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And to think my son almost died for every single person in that bar, by defending all your freedom.
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Perhaps the family shouldn't use his service as a crutch.

I know getting upset about games is silly and childish, but common sense would dictate that you're inviting trouble when you willingly put yourself in an antagonistic scenario. How could this family be upset about people having pride in their team when they themselves were proudly sporting their jerseys?

I'm not defending the immaturity on either side...but it does annoy me when A: people are shocked this stuff happens and B: when people use military service as immunity

Also, why would he side with abunch of out-of-towners at the risk of ticking off his regulars?
 
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LoneStarLocke said:
Perhaps the family shouldn't use his service as a crutch.

I know getting upset about games is silly and childish, but common sense would dictate that you're inviting trouble when you willingly put yourself in an antagonistic scenario. How could this family be upset about people having pride in their team when they themselves were proudly sporting their jerseys?

I'm not defending the immaturity on either side...but it does annoy me when A: people are shocked this stuff happens and B: when people use military service as immunity

Also, why would he side with abunch of out-of-towners at the risk of ticking off his regulars?
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Eh, I dunno. The guy went to a football game wearing his favorite team's jersey and then to a restaurant with his family. What is wrong with that?

Expect a few friendly taunts or jokes? Yeah, maybe, sure. But to have people get so riled up over it to have to be forced by the management to leave? No way. Its a damn game.
 
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matt0611 said:
Huh? The guy went to a football game wearing his favorite team's jersey and then to a restaurant with his family. What is wrong with that?

Expect a few friendly taunts or jokes? Yeah, maybe, sure. But to have people get so riled up over it to have to be forced by the management to leave? No way. Its a damn game. There's no excuse for it.
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Have you ever been to a game or bar?
 
AGRP said:
Have you ever been to a game or bar?
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Yes, probably hundreds of times.

I'm not saying its something that surprises me, I'm just saying, there's really something wrong in our society when this kind of thing should be expected.
 
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matt0611 said:
Huh? The guy went to a football game wearing his favorite team's jersey and then to a restaurant with his family. What is wrong with that?

Expect a few friendly taunts or jokes? Yeah, maybe, sure. But to have people get so riled up over it to have to be forced by the management to leave? No way. Its a damn game. There's no excuse for it.
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This is my point here. We have no idea what was actually said, and by whom. None of us (not present) are really in a position to judge anyone's actions here. We lack the dialogue. It's pretty much the most important part of the entire interaction. The facts presented are all secondary.
 
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matt0611 said:
Yes, probably hundreds of times.

I'm not saying its something that surprises me, I'm just saying, there's really something wrong in our society when this kind of thing should be expected.
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Its not the end of the world. We arent so bad compared to soccer fans. This guy would be lucky to survive his trip back home if he pulled the same stunt in in Ireland.
 
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