Delegates in Puerto Rico, North Marianas, Guam, US Virgin Islands and American Samoa

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Dr Paul needs to win the majority of delegates in 5 states to be eligible to be nominated.

Noone pays any attention to North Marianas, Puerto Rico, Guam, US Virgin Islands and American Samoa. But they have got delegates.

Primary/Caucus dates and delegates

Guam (Caucus)
Territorial Convention: Saturday, Feb. 9
Delegates: 9

U.S. Virgin Islands (Caucus)
Territorial Meetings: April 5
Delegates: 9

Puerto Rico (Primary)
Territorial Caucus: Sunday, Feb. 24, 2008
Puerto Rico will conduct a Territorial Caucus where the voting and allocation methods are still being determined.
Territorial Convention: Mar. 8, 2008
Delegates: 23

North Marianas (Caucus/Convention)
Saturday, Feb. 23
Delegates: 9

American Samoa (Caucus)
Territorial Convention: Saturday, Feb. 23
Delegates: 9

For all Jurisdictions - 3 party leaders: the national committeeman, the national committee woman, and the chairman of the state Republican Party. -> Delegates -3

What can we do to win these delegates. Phone banking?
 
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GoldStandard, thanks for taking up this cause!

We don't have much time for Guam. I think at a minimum we should be able to get print ads in the local papers. Repetition is important.

We need to win the majority of delegates (one way or another) in five "states" (including DC and the territories) or Dr. Paul is ineligible to be nominated. There are sleeper states out there--especially the territories. Dr. Paul has been polling above his averages with minorities, as I've been pointing out when public poll cross tabs are available (SurveyUSA is usually good for that).

We need to put our heads together and focus our resources. I'm suggesting that supporters in states that have already voted "adopt" territories and return the favor (Iowans target Guam, WY/NH team up to take North Marianas, SC takes Puerto Rico, NV takes US Virgin Islands, Michigan takes American Samoa--these are my suggestions based on population, religion, military, other demographics but obviously open to whatever).

My guess is that we could craft messages to appeal to these areas that are being overlooked by the other campaigns that are either broke or have no grassroots (or both). Check the FEC data for local contacts. This strategy could be coupled with chipins for ads (print, radio, whatever) for people who are probably feeling otherwise neglected, and, I suspect, would greatly appreciate our attention. I'm not sure how the calling operations work (call4Paul, ring4Paul) but that would be great.

We can't just then assume we're going to win all of the territories so we should take a hard look at the rest of the states and see if there are a few others we can pick off and get a majority of the delegates. Some other states will probably be neglected on Super Tuesday that might have good demographics for us.

These messages need to be crafted to the local concerns, not what we think is cool. I have no idea what those would be.
 
Are there any meetup groups in these regions? Meetup map doesnt work for me.

Huckabee has got new meetups there!:eek:

Puerto Rico for Huckabee Meetup Group
Founded January 17, 2008
 
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Bradley in DC said:
These messages need to be crafted to the local concerns, not what we think is cool. I have no idea what those would be.
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I start every conversation with a voter like this.

"Did you know 9/11 was an inside job?"

"Did you know that the eye on the pyramid on the dollar bill is really a symbol of the illuminati, and they are lizard people who eat small children?"

"Have you ever seen a UFO?"

Not having much success so far. Most people are sheep and want to talk about mindless topics such as healthcare, the economy and foreign policy. :rolleyes:
 
goldstandard said:
Who is responsible for Call4Paul? Would not be bad to have calls here.
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Have we had an assessment yet on whether Call4Paul is actually making a difference? Letter writing, local ads, targeted web campaigns etc may be more effective. Not sure, I'm just surprised we haven't used any metrics to measure the effectiveness of these different techniques.

Bradley in DC said:
I nominate Eric and AU as Guam "state" chairmen. Do I hear a second?
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I love nominating other people for things. NOMINATED!
 
I found this out concerning Guam.

"Roman Catholicism is the largest religion with 85% attesting to it."


"The largest ethnic group are the native Chamorros, accounting for 57% of the total population. Other significant ethnic groups include Filipino 25.5%, Caucasian 10%, Chinese, Japanese and Korean."


""In a Chamorro (cultural) sense, the land and its produce belong to everyone. Inafa'maolek, or interdependence, is the key, or central value, in Chamorro culture ... Inafa'maolek depends on a spirit of cooperation. This is the armature, or core, that everything in Chamorro culture revolves around. It is a powerful concern for mutuality rather than individualism and private property rights."


"However, in sending delegates to the Republican and Democratic national conventions, Guam does have influence in the national presidential race, although these convention delegates are elected by local party conventions rather than voters in primaries."


"In the 1980s and early 1990s, there was a significant movement in favor of the territory becoming a commonwealth, which would give it a level of self-government similar to Puerto Rico and the Northern Mariana Islands. However, the federal government rejected the commonwealth version that the Government of Guam proposed due to it having clauses incompatible with the Territorial Clause (Art. IV, Sec. 3, cl. 2) of the United States Constitution. Competing movements with less significant influence exist, which advocate political independence from the United States, statehood, combination with the Northern Mariana Islands as a single territory, or combination with the state of Hawaii as a single state."
 
me3 said:
I start every conversation with a voter like this.

"Did you know 9/11 was an inside job?"

"Did you know that the eye on the pyramid on the dollar bill is really a symbol of the illuminati, and they are lizard people who eat small children?"

"Have you ever seen a UFO?"

Not having much success so far. Most people are sheep and want to talk about mindless topics such as healthcare, the economy and foreign policy. :rolleyes:
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LMAO!!!
 
Guamanian Economy

The economy depends largely on US military spending and tourism. Total US grants, wage payments, and procurement outlays amounted to $1.3 billion in 2004. Over the past 30 years, the tourist industry has grown to become the largest income source following national defense. The Guam economy continues to experience expansion in both its tourism and military sectors.

Guam receives large transfer payments from the US Federal Treasury ($143 million in 1997) into which Guamanians pay no income or excise taxes; under the provisions of a special law of Congress, the Guam Treasury, rather than the US Treasury, receives federal income taxes paid by military and civilian Federal employees stationed in Guam (2001 est.)

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https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/gq.html
 
Eric21ND said:
Other significant ethnic groups include Filipino 25.5%

""In a Chamorro (cultural) sense, the land and its produce belong to everyone. Inafa'maolek, or interdependence, is the key, or central value, in Chamorro culture ... Inafa'maolek depends on a spirit of cooperation. It is a powerful concern for mutuality rather than individualism and private property rights."

"In the 1980s and early 1990s, there was a significant movement in favor of the territory becoming a commonwealth, which would give it a level of self-government similar to Puerto Rico and the Northern Mariana Islands. However, the federal government rejected the commonwealth version
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Don't we have a Philippines Meetup looking for something to do? Also http://catholicsforronpaul.blogspot.com/

Dr. Paul understands the Hayekian respect for tradition and cultural mores over regulatory fiat. Our philosophy is based on respect for voluntary cooperation--not coercion.

Oh, the Feds have screwed them on their desire for self-government? We can win this one!!!
 
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