Cruz attracts dozens of people to rally - and 2020 Election

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...ble-ted-starts-screaming-on-radio-show-audio/

Some people describe this as Cruz's meltdown - it certainly is strident.


Cruz looks like he's about to cry, has Carly answer for him.

I assume that Cruz is continuing to run when he can't win so he can collect money for the 2020 election.

In which case, this affects a potential run by a liberty candidate like Rand, as they will be interfered with by a Cruz run again, but this time a Cruz with a lot more money at the outset. Donations by rich #nevertrumpers should be slackening off - but likely the warchest is already in place and the damage done.

 

[cajuncocoa]

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...ble-ted-starts-screaming-on-radio-show-audio/

Some people describe this as Cruz's meltdown - it certainly is strident.


Cruz looks like he's about to cry, has Carly answer for him.

I assume that Cruz is continuing to run when he can't win so he can collect money for the 2020 election.

In which case, this affects a potential run by a liberty candidate like Rand, as they will again be interfered with a Cruz run, but this time Cruz with a lot more money at the outset. Donations are by rich #nevertrumpers are likely to be slackening off now - but likely the warchest is now in place and the damage done.

Are you basically conceding the 2016 election to Hillary?

 

[dannno]

Are you basically conceding the 2016 election to Hillary?

Cruz isn't running against Hillary

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

The strident interview, described as a meltdown by others, in my mind has a lot of invective, personal attacks, guilt tripping, and sound bites used in a word salad (it seems a mixture of a dozen different sound bites Cruz keeps using over and over in various interviews - and it doesn't make sense).

The interview where Cruz looks like he is about to cry and gets someone else to answer for him ends on a similar note to the first.

I don't think these examples are unique by any means, and they show someone that is not suitable as a leader of the country.

We should collect these things now so we can use them in 2020 when we run whatever candidate we end up running.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Cruz isn't running against Hillary

The sentence I highlighted:

I assume that Cruz is continuing to run when he can't win so he can collect money for the 2020 election.

This assumes (correctly) that Cruz will lose in 2016, and since he can't challenge a GOP incumbent in 2020, it can only mean he would be challenging Hillary. Ergo, it suggests the 2016 election will be won by Hillary Clinton.

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

Still, it could be a fluke. The last thread I posted on a Cruz rally a few weeks ago had hundreds of people at it.

Cruz's smart strategy in New York - "targeting micro populations", paid off too. He only lost to Ben Carson in one district.

 

[silverhandorder]

The sentence I highlighted:

I assume that Cruz is continuing to run when he can't win so he can collect money for the 2020 election.

This assumes (correctly) that Cruz will lose in 2016, and since he can't challenge a GOP incumbent in 2020, it can only mean he would be challenging Hillary. Ergo, it suggests the 2016 election will be won by Hillary Clinton.

You can primary a sitting president.

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

You can primary a sitting president.

Beyond which, it is of course way off topic - Cruz is collecting money for another election, and this is contrary to us running a liberty candidate.

Trump is leading in all polls. In California, it is looking like another New York moment. There is no doubt in my mind Cruz would put away his campaign's leftover money for another run, even if he couldn't beat Trump. It's the only way you can use leftover campaign money - greed is a motive in addition to ambition.

Donald Trump is leading Ted Cruz and John Kasich by double digits among Republicans in California, according to a new Capitol Weekly/Sextant Strategies poll.
Here are the results of the survey of 1,165 Golden State GOP members, including 466 who had registered since January:
Trump: 41 percent.
Cruz: 23 percent.
Kasich: 21 percent.
Undecided: 15 percent.
California is among five states holding its contest on June 7, the last day of the 2016 primary season. The others are Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico and South Dakota.

 

[dannno]

The sentence I highlighted:

I assume that Cruz is continuing to run when he can't win so he can collect money for the 2020 election.

This assumes (correctly) that Cruz will lose in 2016, and since he can't challenge a GOP incumbent in 2020, it can only mean he would be challenging Hillary. Ergo, it suggests the 2016 election will be won by Hillary Clinton.

Oohhhhhhhh

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

My reasoning only tries to guess at what Cruz is doing, not on whether it is valid. I believe he can still run against an incumbent GOP president as GOP. He'd probably lose the primary again- but I believe in that circumstance Cruz would run again - even if just to use up election money and "get the social conservative" message out.

When was the last time, if ever, that a sitting president was not nominated by his party for a second term?
It only happened once to an elected president. That was Franklin Pierce, the 14th president, who was elected as a Democrat in 1852.

Four other presidents were denied the nomination of their party, but none of these were elected in their own right. They were:

John Tyler, Whig, 1844. Tyler became president in 1841 following the death of William Henry Harrison. Tyler, a conservative Southerner, was out of step with many in the Whig Party, which instead nominated Henry Clay for president.

Millard Fillmore, Whig, 1852. Fillmore also ascended to the presidency following the death of the incumbent. In this case it was Zachary Taylor, who died in 1850. Taylor's death left the Whigs in disarray, and the party convention chose Gen. Winfield Scott over Fillmore and Daniel Webster.

Andrew Johnson, Democrat, 1868. Johnson, a Southerner and a Democrat, was chosen to be part of a Republican unity ticket led by President Abraham Lincoln in 1864. Following Lincoln's assassination the following year, Johnson tried in vain to win the support of the late president's allies; in fact, he was impeached and nearly convicted by a GOP Congress. The Democratic nomination went to Horatio Seymour.

Chester Arthur, Republican, 1884. Arthur was picked for VP by James Garfield in 1880 in order to help the GOP carry New York. Following Garfield's assassination in 1881, Arthur alienated his erstwhile allies by attacking the patronage system that had helped his career until that point. Arthur lost the GOP nomination to James Blaine.

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

Another rally:

He's catching on I tell you.

fyi - I see some empty seats - so not really filled.

First comment on twitter had a poster that left this.

 

[TheTexan]

dozens of people

LOL Cruz "rally"

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

In which case, this affects a potential run by a liberty candidate like Rand, as they will be interfered with by a Cruz run again, but this time a Cruz with a lot more money at the outset.

In other words, supporting Cruz had blowback. It might not be too late to change that.

 

[cajuncocoa]

You can primary a sitting president.

But generally speaking, it's political suicide to primary one from your own party. Capiche?

 

[silverhandorder]

LOL Cruz "rally"

THERE ARE DOZENS OF US! DOZENS!

 

[dannno]

But generally speaking, it's political suicide to primary one from your own party. Capiche?

You're associating Italian-Americans to intimidation tactics?! You'd better watch your micro-aggressions, bro!

-PC Principal