Communication if the grid goes down ?

[cbc58]

The more and more I think about what is happening and how the govt. is positioning itself - the more I think there will be an "event" which will knock out the internet and local communications - with the govt. then taking it over to tell the masses what to do. The stock market will collapse and only certain people will be able to get on it and they will clean our clocks. Total govt. controlled media and Orwell-like reality.

What is in place for local communications if this happens?... other than ham radios? anything?

 

[TonySutton]

It is wise to have a ham radio. These allow alternative communication with other prepared people if the worst happens.

 

[CaptUSA]

I don't foresee an "event", but many, many little ones. So many that you won't even notice they're happening. It's easier for them that way.

 

[cbc58]

Obama has already signed an executive order allowing the govt. to take over all communications if deemed necessary...

Ham radios are certainly good - but very few have them. I am thinking more "on the ground" type of thing where information other than govt. propaganda is relayed - almost like a daily newsletter of sorts.

 

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

Not sure about the rest of you but if the grid ever goes down and you are in the Mid Atlantic and hear reports of rabble rousing than come on down for that is where ye shall fine me.

 

[Luciconsort]

Not sure about the rest of you but if the grid ever goes down and you are in the Mid Atlantic and hear reports of rabble rousing than come on down for that is where ye shall fine me.

I'll be brewing beer and reloading rifle rounds in the basement lol

 

[Confederate]

Pigeons.

 

[Chris from Upstate NY]

I have a cb radio in my pickup. Works like a charm. Gets me the lowdown on all the speed traps, DWI checkpoints, and random inspection traps that keep the politicians well fed here in NY. When shit hits the fan it will be my first option. When the gas runs out and I can't charge my battery, I will resort to plan B... smoke signals. The secret is to have really dank bud, this makes the thickest smoke.

 

[Aeroneous]

smoke signals. The secret is to have really dank bud, this makes the thickest smoke.

I hear that Federal Reserve Notes are great for smoke signals... at least they're better at making smoke than they are at holding their value.

 

[Matt Collins]

a modified ham radio is essentially the only way you can communicate over distance without the feds getting in.

 

[FindLiberty]

It's a reasonable concern - It all seems to be hanging by a thread. (no pun intended)
Ham/CB communication is fine, "if allowed", (feds will always "get in")
but if the whole power grid is down and out, good luck!
Sooner or later, we ALL will be so screwed without power / food, etc...
Got ammo?

Suicide Hammer (Team America style.)

 

[oyarde]

Pigeons.

Remind me before I eat them all....

 

[cheapseats]

It is wise to have a ham radio. These allow alternative communication with other prepared people if the worst happens.

How many ham radios would it take to relay news from one coast to the other?

 

[cheapseats]

Obama has already signed an executive order allowing the govt. to take over all communications if deemed necessary...

Ham radios are certainly good - but very few have them. I am thinking more "on the ground" type of thing where information other than govt. propaganda is relayed - almost like a daily newsletter of sorts.

DRIVERS NEEDED.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

DRIVERS NEEDED.

And horses.

 

[Tinnuhana]

An acquaintance of mine in NH was a friend of the late king of Jordan via ham radio, so the range is there. But if the radio is using a satellite to bounce signals off, couldn't the gov't shut those down? Maybe clandestine short wave?

 

[roho76]

An acquaintance of mine in NH was a friend of the late king of Jordan via ham radio, so the range is there. But if the radio is using a satellite to bounce signals off, couldn't the gov't shut those down? Maybe clandestine short wave?

Can't you just bounce a signal of the satellite even if they turn it off or encrypt it? It's just an object floating in space. I'm sure if you can find it you can use it. I watched a youtube video a while back where a guy took open source software and two direct TV dishes and used them to transfer data by bouncing the signal off a tall tower that could be seen from both locations a couple of miles away.

 

[mad cow]

The radio waves don't bounce off of satellites,they bounce off of different layers of the ionosphere,Some better at night than day,winter than summer and different frequencies better off of different layers.

 

[Danke]

 

[acptulsa]

An acquaintance of mine in NH was a friend of the late king of Jordan via ham radio, so the range is there. But if the radio is using a satellite to bounce signals off, couldn't the gov't shut those down? Maybe clandestine short wave?

Ham has the range. And there's using a satellite relay, and there's bouncing a signal off of a satellite. Like, for example, a ham signal can be bounced off of the moon. This isn't using the moon (a satellite) as a relay station. This is bouncing electromagnetic waves off of a solid surface.

They can't 'shut the moon down'.

The radio waves don't bounce off of satellites,they bounce off of different layers of the ionosphere,Some better at night than day,winter than summer and different frequencies better off of different layers.

It isn't 'either or'. Communications satellites are radio repeaters. Maybe 'bounce off' isn't the right word, but to say that man-made satellites don't extend radio range is silly. And while man-made satellites are too small to be useful for the purpose, a certain satellite called The Moon bounces radio signals very nicely, thank you. I'm not saying you're wrong about the ionosphere. You aren't. I'm just trying to clarify.

Ham and other radio signals do have disadvantages. They can be received by anyone, be they good guys or bad guys. They can be jammed by a stronger radio. Jamming one frequency doesn't make other frequencies useless, but some frequencies are handier than others. For example, an FM signal does not in any way have the range of a 'ham' frequency signal. There's a reason Navy submarines use very low frequencies--they carry through water.

At the end of the day, though, shutting down conventional means of communications is very much a last resort because the multinational corporations can't get along without them. So, the emphasis seems to be less on shutting communications down than on making sure the powers that be can eavesdrop on them all at will. That indicates to me that our best bet lies less in the hardware and more in innovative new methods of encryption.

Or even in old but proven methods of encryption. Anyone speak Navajo?