'Christian terrorist'? Norway case strikes debate

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So it begins as AP unleashes.


'Christian terrorist'? Norway case strikes debate
By JESSE WASHINGTON - AP National Writer | AP – 4 hrs ago

When the "enemy" is different, an outsider, it's easier to draw quick conclusions, to develop stereotypes. It's simply human nature: There is "us," and there is "them." But what happens when the enemy looks like us — from the same tradition and belief system?

That is the conundrum in the case of Norway and Anders Behring Brevik, who is being called a "Christian extremist" or "Christian terrorist."

http://news.yahoo.com/christian-terrorist-norway-case-strikes-debate-181559379.html
 
A terrorist does not have to come from any particular country, religion, or political affiliation.
 
Christianity and freemasonry are incompatible. The guy glorified in uniforms and was photographed in masonic garb. I think he is an MK Ultra dupe.

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I suppose when the enemy is your own kind, you try to justify it. I was talking to a guy over breakfast (I'm extremely introverted, so this is something I tend not to do), but in my town we're all pretty much of Norwegian descent and still have relatives in Norway, so we were very interested in it. Anyway, this guy is a huge Zionist and an extremely fundamental Christian. Here's how the conversation went.

Me: That was a terrible loss of life.

Him: Yeah, but here's what the media isn't telling you. It was a socialist camp, and pro-Palestinian.

Me: That doesn't justify slaughter.

Him: No, it never does, but now it's at least understandable. It wasn't some random massacre, he had a good cause. Too bad he went about it the wrong way.

Me: :eek:
 
There's plenty of Israel supporters online who are happy these kids were shot, such as Debbie Schussel.
 
It's good to have these stories so that Christians get forced to think about the whole idea of prosecuting people for crimes they haven't committed yet on the pretext that they'll be prevented from committing crimes in the future under a compulsion that comes from their belonging to some group.
 
Really not keen on how the media are playing this person as a "Christian". Apparently, according to his manifesto, he talks about how he doesn't even believe in God or Jesus. He speaks of "Christian-atheism" and "Christian-agnostism", believing in a "Christian" culture but without the Christianity.

To the media, this makes him a "Christian". To a Christian, this notion is laughable. The man is clearly is not Christian. It's like calling neo-atheist Richard Dawkins a Christian because he has referred to himself as a "cultural-Christian".

However, it does raise an interesting point about how many are eager to call other people "Islamic" terrorists.
 
Really not keen on how the media are playing this person as a "Christian". Apparently, according to his manifesto, he talks about how he doesn't even believe in God or Jesus. He speaks of "Christian-atheism" and "Christian-agnostism", believing in a "Christian" culture but without the Christianity.

To the media, this makes him a "Christian". To a Christian, this notion is laughable. The man is clearly is not Christian. It's like calling neo-atheist Richard Dawkins a Christian because he has referred to himself as a "cultural-Christian".

However, it does raise an interesting point about how many are eager to call other people "Islamic" terrorists.

"Muslim terrorists" don't really follow true Islam tenets either.
 
A terrorist does not have to come from any particular country, religion, or political affiliation.

This reminds me of "equal opportunity employer" posters.

Up next: Terrorist groups implement affirmative action programs to even the playing field. ;)
 
Christianity and freemasonry are incompatible.


Agreed.

At the same time, Christianity and pre-emptive invasions like Iraq war based on cooked up lies are also incompatible and yet Church going "Christians" have been the most persistent supporters of that bloodbath exercise compared to any other demographic in the US if polling data is to be trusted.
 
Meet the Right-Wing Hatemongers Who Inspired the Norway Killer
Many of the American writers who influenced Breivik spent years churning out calls for the mass murder of Muslims, Palestinians and their left-wing Western supporters. But the sort of terrorism these US-based rightists incited for was not the style the Norwegian killer would eventually adopt. Instead of Breivik's renegade free-booting, they preferred the "shock and awe" brand of state terror perfected by Western armies against the brown hordes threatening to impose Sharia law on the people in Peoria. This kind of violence provides a righteous satisfaction so powerful it can be experienced from thousands of miles away.

And so most American Islamophobes simply sit back from the comfort of their homes and cheer as American and Israeli troops -- and their remote-controlled aerial drones -- leave a trail of charred bodies from Waziristan to Gaza City. Only a select group of able-bodied Islamophobes are willing to suit up in a uniform and rush to the front lines of the clash of civilizations. There, they have discovered that they can mow down Muslim non-combatants without much fear of legal consequences, and that when they return, they will be celebrated as the elite Crusader-warriors of the new Islamophobic right -- a few particularly violent figures have been rewarded with seats in Congress. Given the variety of culturally acceptable, officially approved outlets for venting violent anti-Muslim resentment, there is little reason for any American to follow in Breivik's path of infamy.


During a visit to SOIA's Facebook page, which is personally administered by Geller and Spencer, it is possible to read rambling calls for killing "the diaper heads" and for Israel to "rule the whole Middle East." A cursory glance at the website will also reveal visual propaganda reveling in the prospect of a genocide against Muslims. One image posted on the site depicts American and British troops dropping a nuclear bomb in the midst of thousands of Muslim pilgrims in Mecca. "Who ya gonna call? Shitbusters," it reads.

A second image portraying a nuclear mushroom cloud declares: "DEALING WITH MUSLIMS -- RULES OF ENGAGEMENT; Rule #1: Kill the Enemy. Rule #2: There is no rule #2." Another posted on SOIA's Facebook page shows the bullet-riddled, bloodsoaked bodies of Muslim civilians splayed out by a roadside. "ARMY MATH," the caption reads. "4 Tangos + (3 round burst x 4 M 4's) = 288 virgins." However pathological these images might seem to outsiders, in the subculture of Geller and Spencer's online fascisphere, they are understood as legitimate expressions of nationalistic, "pro-Western" pride. Indeed, none seem to celebrate violence against Muslims by anyone except uniformed representatives of Western armies.
 
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