Candace Owens - Why I've Stopped Supporting Trump

[jmdrake]

 

[PAF]

Salvage support for Trump??? For even more tiny little bones to implement the technocratic/globalist/Israel agenda?

I listened to that old interview with Booker and Rand Paul this morning. Booker was proud to mention some of the Public-Private Partnerships. Now that the Stakeholder Capitalism precedent has been set via republicans I can't wait to see what the next administration does.

Amazing after decades and decades, and especially now after Trump, people still look forward to the next election in 2028. When the government fears the people my ass.

 

[TheTexan]

Amazing after decades and decades, and especially now after Trump, people still look forward to the next election in 2028.

Next time is gonna be different

 

[vita3]

C Owens would be a great Senator

 

[PAF]

C Owens would be a great Senator

No she wouldn't. Not by a long stretch. She's not a full and devout anarchist.

 

[69360]

Who cares? All the pundits, tubers and influencers have their little spats with Trump. Most of them go back.

 

[TheTexan]

No she wouldn't. Not by a long stretch. She's not a full and devout anarchist.

Neither is Rand and he's pretty great.

Massie may be secretly anarchist but he's pretty awesome either way

 

[PAF]

Massie may be secretly anarchist but he's pretty awesome either way

He's not secretly. Maybe some haven't listened well enough, but it's no secret.

CO is a far cry from an anarchist. Unless she's keeping it a secret while she goes along to get along.

 

[jmdrake]

Who cares? All the pundits, tubers and influencers have their little spats with Trump. Most of them go back.

This isn't a "spat." Trump is fundamentally broken at this point. For many people the last straw was "we need 600,000 Chinese students." There's no coming back from that. Note that before his murder, Charlie Kirk had gone from "all in" on the Epstein files to "I'm not going to talk about the Epstein files" to "Sorry to everyone who called/emailed in angry. I just meant I wasn't going to talk anymore about the Epstein files YESTERDAY."

 

[69360]

This isn't a "spat." Trump is fundamentally broken at this point. For many people the last straw was "we need 600,000 Chinese students." There's no coming back from that. Note that before his murder, Charlie Kirk had gone from "all in" on the Epstein files to "I'm not going to talk about the Epstein files" to "Sorry to everyone who called/emailed in angry. I just meant I wasn't going to talk anymore about the Epstein files YESTERDAY."

He was fundamentally broken from day 1 of this presidency. Unfortunately Trump was the only viable option presented to us voters.

 

[PAF]

He was fundamentally broken... Trump was the only viable option to us voters.

Don't blame me. I refused to and did not give my consent to Israel, Palantir and Stakeholder Capitalism. That's on you.

Too bad half of the voters didn't stand on principle so that the government would fear at least half of the voting people.

 

[jmdrake]

He was fundamentally broken from day 1 of this presidency. Unfortunately Trump was the only viable option presented to us voters.

We've gone over this before. You act like Rand wasn't running in 2016. Regardless Trump promised people a bunch of foolishness he knew he never was going to deliver on.

 

[69360]

We've gone over this before. You act like Rand wasn't running in 2016. Regardless Trump promised people a bunch of foolishness he knew he never was going to deliver on.

Rand dropped out. I didn't vote for Trump in 16 or 20. Nobody expected Trump to deliver. Some of us looked at what he did the last time and it was at least somewhat acceptable. It's still a shame Trump is the best we can do.

 

[Anti Globalist]

She may have stopped supporting Trump, but that doesn't mean she won't give him praise if he does something that is good.

 

[Anti Federalist]

 

[jmdrake]

Rand dropped out. I didn't vote for Trump in 16 or 20. Nobody expected Trump to deliver. Some of us looked at what he did the last time and it was at least somewhat acceptable. It's still a shame Trump is the best we can do.

That's a ridiculous counter argument. Trump is not running for president again, and if he does try then THEN ENTIRE COUNTRY SHOULD RISE UP TO STOP HIM! Meantime the way to not support Trump is to support the good candidates he's attacking like Thomas Massie int he midterms and give vocal support to the Supreme Court when it does the right thing an puts him in check.

 

[jmdrake]

That's an old story that you knew about, or should have known about, back when you were (at least on the surface) supporting Candace Owens because she was saying what you wanted to hear. And what is she saying now? 1) Release the Epstein files 2) The U.S. shouldn't support Israel in a genocide 3) The U.S. shouldn't let Israel drag us into a war with Iran. Those are the main reasons she's given as to why she's not supporting Trump at this point. Do you disagree with her? What you've done is a classic ad hominem attack. You can't attack her position so you attack her but it rings hollow because this was a widely used ad hominem BY THE LEFT to attack her back when YOU were (or seemed to) support her.

 

[Anti Federalist]

That's an old story that you knew about, or should have known about, back when you were (at least on the surface) supporting Candace Owens because she was saying what you wanted to hear. And what is she saying now? 1) Release the Epstein files 2) The U.S. shouldn't support Israel in a genocide 3) The U.S. shouldn't let Israel drag us into a war with Iran. Those are the main reasons she's given as to why she's not supporting Trump at this point. Do you disagree with her? What you've done is a classic ad hominem attack. You can't attack her position so you attack her but it rings hollow because this was a widely used ad hominem BY THE LEFT to attack her back when YOU were (or seemed to) support her.

A - No, I was not aware of that 2007 incident.

B - No, I do not disagree with her on the three points you mentioned.

C - I don't recall being particularly supportive or unsupportive of her. I may have posted a few supportive words here and there, but I have no record of being a huge fanboi of hers.

 

[jmdrake]

A - No, I was not aware of that 2007 incident.

Fair enough. I operate in both pro-MAGA and anti-MAGA spaces and I've often seen the 2007 episode brought up by people on the left to say that she was hypocritical to complain about racism as a child and then later act like anti-black racism no longer exists or is a major problem.

B - No, I do not disagree with her on the three points you mentioned.

Fair enough. I guess I was curious as to why you brought forward an attack on Candace in a thread that's only talking about her separating from Trump. But if this is the first time you heard about the 2007 incident that makes sense. It's new information.

C - I don't recall being particularly supportive or unsupportive of her. I may have posted a few supportive words here and there, but I have no record of being a huge fanboi of hers.

Fair enough. I remember you asking me a while back what I thought of Candace Owens but that doesn't constitute an endorsement on your part.