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TPUSA RESPONDS: Yes, The Text Messages Are Real. | Candace Ep 249​




"Turning Point responds to the release of the group chat messages, X has a meltdown, and a Turning Point donor publishes a touching letter regarding me.

00:00 - Start.
01:03 - X has a meltdown and TPUSA addresses the text messages.
28:19 - Robert J. O'Neill questions the Charlie Kirk assassination narrative.
34:36 - Lingering questions and where is Lance Twiggs?
43:13 - John & Irina Mappin's touching letter.
57:46 - Comments. "
 
The fact that someone in that group is leaking these texts to Candace, is fucking epic.

"WE'LL KILL THEM!!"
- Izrael
 
Brian4Liberty said:

TPUSA RESPONDS: Yes, The Text Messages Are Real. | Candace Ep 249​




"Turning Point responds to the release of the group chat messages, X has a meltdown, and a Turning Point donor publishes a touching letter regarding me.

00:00 - Start.
01:03 - X has a meltdown and TPUSA addresses the text messages.
28:19 - Robert J. O'Neill questions the Charlie Kirk assassination narrative.
34:36 - Lingering questions and where is Lance Twiggs?
43:13 - John & Irina Mappin's touching letter.
57:46 - Comments. "
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At 19:36, Candace says that she has never accused Israel of killing Charlie Kirk.
 


"JOSH HAMMER TREACHERY? FACT: Josh Hammer randomly dug up a 12-year old Trump tweet about public executions the night before Charlie was assassinated.

FACT: That same night before the assassination, Josh Hammer told us he had a meeting with Charlie wherein he claimed Charlie hadn't changed his mind on israel. He neglected to say anything about Charlie's group chat statement from the previous day.

FACT: Josh Hammer was in the group chat where Charlie admitted he was going to have to abandon the pro-israel cause, yet Hammer remained completely silent about this and called Candace Owens a liar for claiming Charlie's stance on israel was shifting.

FACT: Josh Hammer knew about the letter to Netanyahu, but remained quiet and let others break the story.

Why is Josh Hammer calling people liars for making true claims while remaining silent on key pieces of insider information himself that refute his own claims?

Watch Josh Hammer tell you about being in the group chat and tell you Charlie wasn't shifting his stance. This is now confirmed to be untrue and it turns out Candace Owens was telling the truth. Why did hammer lie about Candace and not produce this information himself?"
 
Brian4Liberty said:
FACT: Josh Hammer randomly dug up a 12-year old Trump tweet about public executions the night before Charlie was assassinated.
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Sept. 9th:



In fairness to Josh Hammer, when he retweeted the Trump post about public executions, the Iryna Zarutska murder was the hot story of the day. Thus, it is completely reasonable for Hammer to have been referring to publicly executing Iryna's murderer.

On the other hand, it's clear that Hammer was trying to do damage control after Charlie's assassination, and as we know now, completely mischaracterizing Charlie Kirk's opinion about donors who were aggressive Zionists (and lobbyists), and his future support for their "perspective". He was in on the group messaging and conference calls, so ignorance is no excuse.
 
Brian4Liberty said:

TPUSA RESPONDS: Yes, The Text Messages Are Real. | Candace Ep 249​




"Turning Point responds to the release of the group chat messages, X has a meltdown, and a Turning Point donor publishes a touching letter regarding me.

00:00 - Start.
01:03 - X has a meltdown and TPUSA addresses the text messages.
28:19 - Robert J. O'Neill questions the Charlie Kirk assassination narrative.
34:36 - Lingering questions and where is Lance Twiggs?
43:13 - John & Irina Mappin's touching letter.
57:46 - Comments. "
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Around the 35:00 mark, Candace states that she believes that this was military hit, akin to the JFK assassination, she does NOT believe the shooter was the person "walking up the stairs" or "running across the roof". She suspects that Lance Twiggs may have been the shooter, and is a "government asset".

This is Candace speculating, and she did not say that she had any evidence of this.

For the record, IMHO, this is far fetched speculation.
 
Candace claims that she had a tip that George Zinn said he would be paid for being a distraction while at the hospital after the shooting. This claim seems to originate with Candace (and her anonymous source).

As these claims came much later than the original story from the hospital about George Zinn admitting he did it to be a distraction, there would need to be compelling evidence of this claim of expecting payment, of which there is none.

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Question for Grok:

"Is there any evidence that George Zinn said that he was going to be paid to be a distraction after the Charlie Kirk assassination?"

Evidence Overview

Yes, there is circulating evidence—primarily from social media claims and reports on X (formerly Twitter)—that George Zinn, a 71-year-old man arrested in connection with the September 2025 assassination attempt on conservative activist Charlie Kirk during an event at Utah Valley University, allegedly admitted to being paid to act as a distraction (or "decoy") for the real shooter. However, this evidence is unverified and based on secondhand accounts, with no confirmed primary sources like official police reports, court documents, or direct recordings publicly available as of October 8, 2025. Mainstream news outlets have not corroborated the "payment" detail, though they have reported Zinn's role as a decoy based on his statements to police.The claims emerged shortly after the incident and gained traction through influencers like Candace Owens, who cited a "vetted tip" from hospital staff. Below, I'll break down the key pieces of evidence, context, and limitations.

Key Claims and Sources

Multiple X posts reference Zinn's alleged statements to hospital staff (made shortly after his arrest, while being treated for a self-inflicted or unrelated injury) that he was promised payment to confess and draw attention away from the actual assassin, though he reportedly didn't know who the payer was. Here's a summary of the most relevant reports:

SourceDateKey Quote/DetailEngagement (Likes/Views)
Candace Owens (via
@MJTruthUltra
,
@CassandraRules
,
@ShaykhSulaiman
,
@kylawndog
,
@DeepBlueCrypto
)		Oct 7–8, 2025Owens claims she was "tipped off" (and vetted the source) that Zinn told hospital staff he was "promised payment to take the blame" as a decoy, without knowing the payer. Includes video clips from her show discussing the tip.84–1,306 likes / 10k–25k views
@DiligentDenizenOct 8, 2025"George Zinn said claimed he was PAID TO BE A DECOY... told hospital staff before he was taken to jail." Includes two videos (likely news clips or reenactments).232 likes / 5.8k views
RT (
@RT_com
)		Sep 16, 2025"George Zinn told cops he wanted ‘to draw attention from the real shooter’" (focuses on decoy role, but implies motive; no direct payment mention). Video from Fox News.770 likes / 1.3M views
@GrahamAllen_1Sep 16, 2025Zinn told cops: "I shot him, now shoot me... intended to ‘draw attention from the real shooter.’" (Early report on decoy confession; payment angle added later.)1,061 likes / 40k views
@NatCon2022Sep 16, 2025Zinn "confessed that he pretended to have shot Charlie Kirk to help the real killer escape." Charged with felony obstruction; held without bond.65k likes / 3M views
@DerrickEvans4WV
&
@ResisttheMS		Sep 16, 2025Reiterates Zinn's confession to distracting police for the shooter's escape.314–332 likes / 30k–70k views
  • Videos Attached: Several posts include clips (e.g., from Fox News or Owens' show) showing Zinn's arrest and reenactments of his behavior—waving a hat in "surrender" and yelling to draw attention. One video (duration ~88 seconds) depicts the chaotic scene post-shooting, with Zinn in the crowd.
  • Broader Context: Earlier posts (Sep 9–12) speculated Zinn was a "patsy" or Mossad-linked distraction, but the payment claim solidified around Oct 7 via Owens. Some tie it to unrelated charges against Zinn (e.g., child porn allegations) as potential blackmail.
Limitations and Substantiation

  • Strengths: The claims are consistent across multiple independent X accounts (e.g., Owens' tip aligns with
    @DiligentDenizen
    's report). Zinn's decoy role is widely accepted, based on his police confession (reported by Fox News and others), providing a foundation for the payment motive.
  • Weaknesses:
    • No Primary Evidence: No audio, video, or transcripts of Zinn's hospital statements exist publicly. Owens' "vetted tip" is anonymous, and hospital staff haven't come forward.
    • No Mainstream Confirmation: Searches yielded no hits from outlets like CNN, NYT, or AP. Fox News confirmed the decoy confession but not payment.
    • Potential Bias: Sources are predominantly right-leaning (e.g.,
      @MJTruthUltra
      ,
      @RT_com
      ), which could amplify unverified conspiracy angles around the Kirk shooting.
    • Timeline: The shooting occurred ~Sep 10, 2025; Zinn's arrest was immediate. Payment claims surfaced weeks later, possibly fueled by ongoing investigations into the unsolved assassin.
Conclusion

There is circumstantial evidence from credible social media reports (especially Candace Owens' vetted tip) suggesting Zinn claimed he was paid to act as a distraction, but it's not conclusively proven. This fits a narrative of conspiracy in the Kirk assassination, where Zinn's quick confession diverted attention from the real shooter (still at large). For definitive proof, monitor official updates from Utah authorities or Kirk's team—e.g., via TPUSA statements. If new details emerge (e.g., leaked affidavits), they could substantiate or debunk this.
 
Brian4Liberty said:


"JOSH HAMMER TREACHERY? FACT: Josh Hammer randomly dug up a 12-year old Trump tweet about public executions the night before Charlie was assassinated.

FACT: That same night before the assassination, Josh Hammer told us he had a meeting with Charlie wherein he claimed Charlie hadn't changed his mind on israel. He neglected to say anything about Charlie's group chat statement from the previous day.

FACT: Josh Hammer was in the group chat where Charlie admitted he was going to have to abandon the pro-israel cause, yet Hammer remained completely silent about this and called Candace Owens a liar for claiming Charlie's stance on israel was shifting.

FACT: Josh Hammer knew about the letter to Netanyahu, but remained quiet and let others break the story.

Why is Josh Hammer calling people liars for making true claims while remaining silent on key pieces of insider information himself that refute his own claims?

Watch Josh Hammer tell you about being in the group chat and tell you Charlie wasn't shifting his stance. This is now confirmed to be untrue and it turns out Candace Owens was telling the truth. Why did hammer lie about Candace and not produce this information himself?"
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Came to post this, it's continued in a thread.

 


"Let's recap. Charlie Kirk informed seven of his closest confidants, just 48 hours before he was assassinated, that he was abandoning the pro-Israel cause.

Not one of them spoke out.
Some of them actively lied and claimed he was still all-in for Israel

They did this for a month.

Does this mean Israel did it? No. It doesn't. But it does mean that seven people very close to him ALL either actively lied about this fact or they stayed quiet about it.

This is meaningful. This is not nothing. Anyone claiming it is nothing is a liar. Likely a paid liar.

I just want to make that clear."
 
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Wish we had an strong law enformcent official to go after cabal behind murder.
 
Brian4Liberty said:
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unknown said:
"Let's recap. Charlie Kirk informed seven of his closest confidants, just 48 hours before he was assassinated, that he was abandoning the pro-Israel cause.

Not one of them spoke out.
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Three reasons for that, two per their own words:

- It was a private conversation, they felt obliged to keep it private.
- Officials told them not to say anything because it was an open investigation.
- If they believed that Zionist interests killed Charlie, they would be scared. (They did not say this though).
 
Brian4Liberty said:
Three reasons for that, two per their own words:

- It was a private conversation, they felt obliged to keep it private.
- Officials told them not to say anything because it was an open investigation.
- If they believed that Zionist interests killed Charlie, they would be scared. (They did not say this though).
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Instead of keeping quiet, some lied.

Attacking Candace in the process.
 
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