Can Jesse Benton Bring Together The Paul and McConnell Wings of the GOP?

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Can Jesse Benton Bring Together The Paul and McConnell Wings of the GOP?
http://reason.com/blog/2013/08/01/can-jesse-benton-bring-together-the-paul

Katrina Trinko at National Review profiles former Ron and Rand Paul campaign bigwig Jesse Benton, now working for Kentucky Sen. Mitch McConnell, and speculates about what it means for cross-GOP unity.
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Now, McConnell has made some stands that will make it easier for Rand Paul people to love him--voting for Rand's super-budget-cutting plan (five-year path to balanced, $2.3 trillion in tax cuts), joining him on hemp legalization, and audit the Fed (after being against it in 2010), some pet causes for Paul folk. This has given Paul cover for being on McConnell's side against his Tea Party primary challenger Matt Bevin.

But as this old thread from Daily Paul (Internet home of many of the hardest of Paul hardcore) reminds us, McConnell's been grim in his career on issues of Patriot Act and domestic civil liberties and hawkishness in the war on terror, bank bailouts, No Child Left Behind and Medicare expansion, and semi-automatic weapon bans.

McConnell did give support to Paul's drone filibuster, and voted this week for Paul's end-Egypt-aid bill, despite his usual rep, as Foreign Policy puts it, of being a "typically orthodox voter on foreign policy issues." He's been willing to at least say he'd consider some defense cuts.

Benton's power to create any Paul-McConnell activist alliance is questionable--he was never a favorite of the more hardcore and Internet-noisy of Ron Paul fans. In fact, many saw him as a sellout traitor, a burden Benton bore, in my experience covering the Paul campaign for my book Ron Paul's Revolution, with a decent amount of public grace but a lot of (understandable) private annoyance, which sometimes became public.

So it's going to be down to Mitch to convince them he's on their side. And it will be difficult for them to be convinced his instincts are true-blue and reliable on liberty issues--especially if he ends up majority leader again and becomes enmeshed in the ol' political art of the possible. (For example, the switch on "audit the Fed" is easy to read as just a "who the hell cares?" gesture of "no reason to make these Paul people mad at me for something I don't think is that important anyway.")

In this read, Rand Paul's very public ascendance will make a politician like McConnell more willing to go along with him, something that could be very important indeed for Rand's future career if McConnell is again majority leader of the Senate--it's good for a senator to have good relations with someone in that position. But again, it's likely that such leverage will come not from turning McConnell into a true believer, but turning Rand into a political force hard to ignore or oppose.

Poor put-upon, annoyed, yet graceful Jesse Benton. GMAFB, Brian.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. I sure hope Benton is as successful running Waddle's campaign as he was Ron's.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I sure hope Benton is as successful running Waddle's campaign as he was Ron's.

Was he really that big of failure? By any objective measure, I think Ron Paul far outperformed expectations. I thought Ron Paul's campaign was a huge success. People like Amash, Massie, and Rand come out of it not too mention he changed the debate on foreign policy.
 
If McConnell is safely re-elected he'll go back to his old ways and I doubt he'll be endorsing Rand any time soon
 
who's asking this dumb question? jennifer rubin is that you

this is like asking when a fastfood manager leaves mcdonald for kfc, whether customers will now flock to kfc.. how about grow a brain fat lady.
 
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This is just the logical conclusion of when we tolerate people like Ted Cruz. The slippery slope goes down and we lose our principles, goingfor the "Lesser of two evils" no matter what.

We can't do it. We cannot compromise with the enemies of liberty. We have to fight them.

Steve Deace convinced me that Rand Paul is being stupid with his support of Mitch McConnell. We need not follow in his footsteps.
 
This is just the logical conclusion of when we tolerate people like Ted Cruz.

Us tolerate? What are you even talking about? Whether we on this forum like him or not, doesn't mean squat to Ted Cruz.

Perhaps a better approach would be to applaud his good votes and denounce his bad.
 
Well, obviously. The question is, what kind of people do we support? As long as we vote for people like Cruz.... or McConnell, as the "Lesser of two evils" that's the best we are going to get. We've got to be willing to fight them.
 
While I think the jury is still out on Cruz, to compare him at this point to the amount of evil perpetrated by McConnell is absolutely absurd.

But even a /facepalm cannot describe how I feel about this article. Jesse's antics in Kentucky are no foundation to bring people together on. It's more insulting than unifying.
 
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This is just the logical conclusion of when we tolerate people like Ted Cruz. The slippery slope goes down and we lose our principles, goingfor the "Lesser of two evils" no matter what.

We can't do it. We cannot compromise with the enemies of liberty. We have to fight them.

Steve Deace convinced me that Rand Paul is being stupid with his support of Mitch McConnell. We need not follow in his footsteps.

No, Jesse Benton helped destroy Ron Paul 2012, how could he bring people together? BUT, there are a number of reasons to not support Mitch McConnell (Jesse Benton being on staff is one for me), but Steve Deace has no credibility in politics and why endorsements do/don't make sense IMO...this is the same Steve Deace that endorsed Newt Gingrich, right?

If so, Steve Deace is as easily deceived as your typical Republican voter, and only wants a politician to vote for that will tickle his ears with campaign promises. Steve Deace and Jesse Benton are two peas in pod really IMO, just part of the problem, not the solution.
 
Us tolerate? What are you even talking about? Whether we on this forum like him or not, doesn't mean squat to Ted Cruz.

Perhaps a better approach would be to applaud his good votes and denounce his bad.

The problem LE is he's an infiltrator who is being careful to shadow Rand and how he votes so is unlikely to have any bad votes. I know his game.
 
The problem LE is he's an infiltrator who is being careful to shadow Rand and how he votes so is unlikely to have any bad votes. I know his game.
Yeah, you've clearly went all-in on that perception. Now, let's pretend Dewhurst became the Senator from TX and it's obvious that Rand wouldn't have the ally that he does today and perhaps it would've been harder for him to do some of what he's done as well as seeing key media personalities coming to his side. Also, Cruz has given Rand more conservative cover as he unveils his more libertarian stances. I'm not 100% sold on him but gun to my head I'd have to say that I trust him rather than not. In every similar situation where there's a Cruz (tough conservative) versus a no doubt establishment character, I pick the Cruz every time as a no-brainer. He far surpasses the 80%+ threshold and this country would be a lot better off if the republicans in the Congress where comprised of Cruz and Paul across the board. That's the kind of reform in the GOP that I want to see and only then will any major spending reforms have a chance.
 
The problem LE is he's an infiltrator who is being careful to shadow Rand and how he votes so is unlikely to have any bad votes. I know his game.

when it comes to matters concerning goldman sachs, i expect cruz to be on their side.
his bedroom demands it.
 
If McConnell is safely re-elected he'll go back to his old ways and I doubt he'll be endorsing Rand any time soon

Mitch knows how to return a political favor, he'll endorse.


PPP is a democratic firm, of course she is doing well.


I'm not a Mitch fan, but am a betting man and I would bet on him winning.
 
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