California set to seize 1,100 miles of coastline

[Anti Federalist]

I've said 100 times already - Pay the people who own the land to build barriers.

Then call out the Unorganized Militia to man it.

Problem solved.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Make more babies.

People could afford that if your precious Fed didn't rob us into the dirt.

[h=1]The primary cause of the west's demographic problem is kleptocracy[/h]

 

[eleganz]

Wouldn't the ocean view millionaires do a better job at protecting their own homes?

 

[Zippyjuan]

People could afford that if your precious Fed didn't rob us into the dirt.

[h=1]The primary cause of the west's demographic problem is kleptocracy[/h]

Is that why poor countries tend to have more babies than rich ones- because of the Federal Reserve?

Birth rates go down as societies mature. One reason is that you need fewer kids- first to replace the ones who fail to make it to adulthood (improved medicine means fewer replacements needed) and second less financial stress (more income) needing more kids to work and help support the family.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Is that why poor countries tend to have more babies than rich ones- because of the Federal Reserve?

Poor countries have lower standards of living and the economics of raising children is different, many of them also get food aid and the like that produces a welfare like effect where it is beneficial to the families to have as many children as possible.
The fed not only robs us directly but it also drives up the costs of living in ways that discourages people from having children.

 

[Stratovarious]

Is that why poor countries tend to have more babies than rich ones- because of the Federal Reserve?

Birth rates go down as societies mature. One reason is that you need fewer kids- first to replace the ones who fail to make it to adulthood (improved medicine means fewer replacements needed) and second less financial stress (more income) needing more kids to work and help support the family.

Poor countries like what zippie;
You are not advised to respond, clue: I'm setting you up (shhh, did I just say that out loud...).

 

[fedupinmo]

More government, sustainable development, “for the greater good”.

@Anti Federalist any word about when your town is next?

Last year they forced one of the members of our liberty group out who lived less than a mile from me. The stream in her back yard was 1 or 2 hundred feet from the house, she could no longer afford the legal battles so she and her husband said f%ck it.

They should have bought guns and ammo earlier.

 

[Origanalist]

Of course they completely ignore the fact that California is on the edge of a fault line, which means there is movement unrelated to any changes in the actual sea level. Many homes built on the ocean do have to be condemned because they fall into the ocean because they are on sedimentary rock bluffs that erode over time. Global warming isn’t really the issue when it comes to erosion.

Anybody familiar with California knows this is true.

Plus in a lot of cities, Mill Valley etc., houses are built idiotically on hillsides that are obvious hazards but that is kind of a different issue.

 

[oyarde]

Anybody familiar with California knows this is true.

Plus in a lot of cities, Mill Valley etc., houses are built idiotically on hillsides that are obvious hazards but that is kind of a different issue.

Yeah , you see houses that you can nearly be certain will not be there in a decade. World Temps do not cause the erosion that has been going on in california the past few thousand years .

 

[PAF]

I hope that I'm not interpreting some of the responses to be in support of eminent domain/government control. I agree that there are structures built in questionable areas, but that is the business of the property owner. I am heading back out next week and plan to stay at one of those questionable houses that overlooks the ocean.

 

[Origanalist]

I hope that I'm not interpreting some of the responses to be in support of eminent domain/government control. I agree that there are structures built in questionable areas, but that is the business of the property owner. I am heading back out next week and plan to stay at one of those questionable houses that overlooks the ocean.

I'm absolutely not in favor of eminent domain, especially with such bullshit reasoning as this. However, my feelings are a bit tempered I must admit as this IS California and they actually voted this menace into the Governors mansion. Progressive-ism is rampant in those area's.

 

[Ender]

I'm absolutely not in favor of eminent domain, especially with such bull$#@! reasoning as this. However, my feelings are a bit tempered I must admit as this IS California and they actually voted this menace into the Governors mansion. Progressive-ism is rampant in those area's.

I'm from California & most of the people I know are pretty freedom oriented. Most of this shite comes from public school indoctrination as to what "freedom" really means. I also believe that Cali is being used as a testing ground for TPTB to push things as far as possible before it is spread to the entire country.

And the beach areas are already part of the wonderful Constitutional-free zones, so there ya go.

 

[PAF]

I'm from California & most of the people I know are pretty freedom oriented. Most of this $#@!e comes from public school indoctrination as to what "freedom" really means. I also believe that Cali is being used as a testing ground for TPTB to push things as far as possible before it is spread to the entire country.

And the beach areas are already part of the wonderful Constitutional-free zones, so there ya go.

Better watch out, Shill might see these 3 consecutive posts and call us the 3 Stooges

 

[Anti Federalist]

I'm from California & most of the people I know are pretty freedom oriented. Most of this shite comes from public school indoctrination as to what "freedom" really means. I also believe that Cali is being used as a testing ground for TPTB to push things as far as possible before it is spread to the entire country.

And the beach areas are already part of the wonderful Constitutional-free zones, so there ya go.

I think we end up in our echo chambers.

It's human nature after all.

But obviously, based and what they vote for in overwhelmingly majorities, most Californians are NOT "freedom oriented".

 

[Superfluous Man]

The stated purpose for this of a managed retreat from the coast in preparation for an expected sea level rise could be done in the free market by individual property owners making their own decisions based on their own cost-benefit analyses of how they use those properties in light of whatever risks of sea level rise there are. No central managing of the process by the government would be needed, even if the fear were well-founded.

That said, I'm glad to see a response to global warming fears that involves preparing to adjust to whatever climate change is expected, rather than trying to implement policies that are supposed to affect that change, as if governments could be or should be planetary thermostats.

I don't know if any of the global warming predictions will end up coming true. But if they are going to, there's nothing we can do to stop it.

 

[TheCount]

I don't like eminent domain even for the wall and I have always said so but the wall is a legitimate national defense purpose, this is just theft.

Oh sure, ignore the glaciers full of liquid invaders just waiting to pour over the nation's borders. Do you think that they're going to give up millions of years of wet culture as soon as they get here?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Oh sure, ignore the glaciers full of liquid invaders just waiting to pour over the nation's borders. Do you think that they're going to give up millions of years of wet culture as soon as they get here?

LOL

Is that all the better you can do?

 

[Occam's Banana]

[...] they actually voted this menace into the Governors mansion. Progressive-ism is rampant in those area's.

 

[kona]

I hope that I'm not interpreting some of the responses to be in support of eminent domain/government control. I agree that there are structures built in questionable areas, but that is the business of the property owner.

I'm 100% against eminent domain, but if anyone, from Cali or otherwise, is a potential FEMA beneficiary, then on some level, it is our/your business.

 

[Ender]

I think we end up in our echo chambers.

It's human nature after all.

But obviously, based and what they vote for in overwhelmingly majorities, most Californians are NOT "freedom oriented".

Most all of urban Cali is- the cities are the big left-leaners.