Barr's official stated reason for missing the conference

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Libertarian candidate Bob Barr just wrapped a combative press conference down the hall from the Ron Paul presser. It took some time for the latter event to end. Paul and the candidates retreated from their main room to a side room with a mix of reporters and people who just wanted to take pictures with them. Max Anthony, the head of the Cecil Chesterton Society, confronted Paul on why he'd written the introduction to a Chesterton anthology that included anti-Semitic footnotes and jokes about Jews. "The best economists are Jewish!" Paul laughed. "Ricardo was Jewish! Von Mises was Jewish!" Anthony pressed the issue. "I'm not familiar with this," Paul said. "I'm not going to get caught in that trap." Nader got almost as much attention as Paul, and posed together for cameras. "The best event we've ever done," said one of his staffers.

Out in the hall, third party candidates for various and sundry offices handed out literature and buttonholed journalists. The buzz was what the hell Barr was up to. "I heard he's dropping out!" "He wanted Ron to endorse him." "He doesn't want to share a stage with Baldwin." Barr arrived at 11:50, and I saw Iraq War Veteran Against the War and Barr backer Adam Kokesh walking towards his room, looking purposeful and pissed off.

Barr opened with a statement on how he'd gotten to this point, and why he'd not attended the Paul event.

- In December 2007, he authored the LP's statement of intent to nominate Ron Paul for president if he lost the GOP nomination. Paul turned it down.

- Yesterday Barr sent Paul a letter (which I have a copy of, and I'll scan in a bit) asking Paul to run as Barr's vice presidential nominee. Wayne Allyn Root agreed to step aside if Paul wanted the job. Paul turned this down.

- Barr signed onto the statement of principles that Nader, McKinney and Baldwin signed, and stands by it. But he declined the offer to appear this morning.

"This is no reflection, certainly, on the tremendous and positive leadership that Ron Paul has provided to the liberty movement over the years. He recognized, for example, the strength of that movement, which has to come from the outside, back in 1987," when he left the GOP. What Barr is offering voters is...
bold, focused, specific leadership. That is not the amorphous kind that says "any of the above" or "none of the above." That's not leadershp. What is leadership is what I, and our campaign, and the LP are doing. Putting before the American people not a wish list, not a menu of things you can pick and choose, not a group of candidates, but a candidate for president, Bob Barr, who stands for very specific programs and policies and direction for this country.

Some of Paul's supporters, sitting in the back of the room, snickered at this. Barr pushed on. "The primaries are over" and the only measure of libertarian success will be how many votes the LP gets.

The print press asked for more details on Barr's offer to Paul and details on what Barr supported from the message of that earlier event. Kokesh raised his hand and started talking; Barr campaign chairman Russ Verney asked him to identify his media organization. "I'm an independent blogger," Kokesh said. Verney and Kokesh talked over each other for about 30 seconds, Verney trying to move on, Kokesh explaining what had made him so angry. "Leadership is not just about knowing when to lead, but knowing when to follow," Kokesh said. "You failed that test today and I retract my endorsement of you."

There were more harsh questions (is Barr a Republican agent trying to destroy the LP?) but nothing quite that harsh. The conference emptied out and Barr's staff kept on message: All respect to Ron Paul, but "support one of these nice candidates" is not a libertarian campaign. "Dr. Paul is allowing the Ron Paul Revolution to wither," said Barr aide Shane Cory.

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/128719.html

It is clear IMHO that there appears to be an attempt to dismantle the revolution as this article alludes to. Not going to happen any time soon.
 
this movement died today as far as I'm concerned.

People just can't see the forest through the trees and it is a waste of my time and energy to hope this will ever change.

Truth Warrior - sign me up. I'm finished with politics for good.
 
So, he was basically refusing to share the stage with non-libertarian conservative candidates. Idealism is his excuse, I guess. It isn't about learning how to vote for someone other than the Demopublican bull, but learning how to vote LP period. Sweet.

I'm with Dr. Paul on this one. Bad move, Barr. We need everyone, not just us, to reject the status quo.
 
this movement died today as far as I'm concerned.

People just can't see the forest through the trees and it is a waste of my time and energy to hope this will ever change.

Truth Warrior - sign me up. I'm finished with politics for good.

oh that is complete and utter bullshit you troll.
 
Bob Barr played politics today and it backfired, as it should.

I'm still voting for him, warts and all.
 
this movement died today as far as I'm concerned.

People just can't see the forest through the trees and it is a waste of my time and energy to hope this will ever change.

Truth Warrior - sign me up. I'm finished with politics for good.


This movement just got more focused
 
I think Barr missed the point. The point Ron was making is, here are the other candidates, any and all are better options on these 4 points he outlined, than Obama and McCain. :cool: Barr could have picked up my vote today, I'm on the fence on who I'm voting for. By not showing, he lost that chance.
 
Yesterday Barr sent Paul a letter (which I have a copy of, and I'll scan in a bit) asking Paul to run as Barr's vice presidential nominee. Wayne Allyn Root agreed to step aside if Paul wanted the job. Paul turned this down.

:(

Barr signed onto the statement of principles that Nader, McKinney and Baldwin signed, and stands by it.

:)

But he declined the offer to appear this morning.

:confused:
 
I know BobBarr's pissed most of you off for good at this point, but I have to grudgingly agree with his refusal to participate in a Ron Paul "any of the above" quasi-endorsement of theocrat Baldwin, socialist Nader, and even mega-Marxist Cynthia McKinney for f***'s sake.

If Ron Paul REALLY wanted to shake up the system and fight the good fight against the status quo NOW (not 10-20 years later), he could have accepted the LP nomination that was offered to him on a silver platter. No, he wouldn't win but he could have achieved 49-50 state ballot access and spread the liberty message far more effectively than anyone else this election cycle (especially with a credible VP pick such as Gary Johnson, Ventura, or... perhaps even Bob Barr.) No doubt it would have been the best 3rd party vote total since Ross Perot and established a solid foundation for a political force to be reckoned with in the years ahead.

Instead, it appears he prefers to "play nice enough" with the GOP to preserve his Congressional standing while continuing to take pot-shots from the sidelines and encourage folks to "explore all 3rd party alternatives".

All due respect for the man, but that's not active leadership -- it's passive "spokesmanship."
 
"Leadership is not just about knowing when to lead, but knowing when to follow," Kokesh said. "You failed that test today and I retract my endorsement of you."

Well said Adam!
 
this movement died today as far as I'm concerned.

People just can't see the forest through the trees and it is a waste of my time and energy to hope this will ever change.

Truth Warrior - sign me up. I'm finished with politics for good.

You're leaving?! promise?
 
I know BobBarr's pissed most of you off for good at this point, but I have to grudgingly agree with his refusal to participate in a Ron Paul "any of the above" quasi-endorsement of theocrat Baldwin, socialist Nader, and even mega-Marxist Cynthia McKinney for f***'s sake.

If Ron Paul REALLY wanted to shake up the system and fight the good fight against the status quo NOW (not 10-20 years later), he could have accepted the LP nomination that was offered to him on a silver platter. No, he wouldn't win but he could have achieved 49-50 state ballot access and spread the liberty message far more effectively than anyone else this election cycle (especially with a credible VP pick such as Gary Johnson, Ventura, or... perhaps even Bob Barr.) No doubt it would have been the best 3rd party vote total since Ross Perot and established a solid foundation for a political force to be reckoned with in the years ahead.

Instead, it appears he prefers to "play nice enough" with the GOP to preserve his Congressional standing while continuing to take pot-shots from the sidelines and encourage folks to "explore all 3rd party alternatives".

All due respect for the man, but that's not leadership -- it's passive "spokesmanship."

Dr Paul still tells the truth. He has said about a million times that he would not run third party.
 
I know BobBarr's pissed most of you off for good at this point, but I have to grudgingly agree with his refusal to participate in a Ron Paul "any of the above" quasi-endorsement of theocrat Baldwin, socialist Nader, and even mega-Marxist Cynthia McKinney for f***'s sake.

If Ron Paul REALLY wanted to shake up the system and fight the good fight against the status quo NOW (not 10-20 years later), he could have accepted the LP nomination that was offered to him on a silver platter. No, he wouldn't win but he could have achieved 49-50 state ballot access and spread the liberty message far more effectively than anyone else this election cycle (especially with a credible VP pick such as Gary Johnson, Ventura, or... perhaps even Bob Barr.) No doubt it would have been the best 3rd party vote total since Ross Perot and established a solid foundation for a political force to be reckoned with in the years ahead.

Instead, it appears he prefers to "play nice enough" with the GOP to preserve his Congressional standing while continuing to take pot-shots from the sidelines and encourage folks to "explore all 3rd party alternatives".

All due respect for the man, but that's not leadership -- it's passive "spokesmanship."

There's something to what you say. No doubt about it. I, too, would rather he played less nicely with the G.O.P. But after years of seeing this crap, seeing the Demopublicans own the elections and people natter on about wasted votes, I do understand where he was coming from. Now, and pretty suddenly, independent party wins are starting to look like a real possibility, and it is a shame Ron Paul didn't get on board. That said, this is a recent development, and while Ron Paul's crystal ball has become somewhat legendary it seems to show only economic future events, not political ones...
 
I know BobBarr's pissed most of you off for good at this point, but I have to grudgingly agree with his refusal to participate in a Ron Paul "any of the above" quasi-endorsement of theocrat Baldwin, socialist Nader, and even mega-Marxist Cynthia McKinney for f***'s sake.

If Ron Paul REALLY wanted to shake up the system and fight the good fight against the status quo NOW (not 10-20 years later), he could have accepted the LP nomination that was offered to him on a silver platter. No, he wouldn't win but he could have achieved 49-50 state ballot access and spread the liberty message far more effectively than anyone else this election cycle (especially with a credible VP pick such as Gary Johnson, Ventura, or... perhaps even Bob Barr.) No doubt it would have been the best 3rd party vote total since Ross Perot and established a solid foundation for a political force to be reckoned with in the years ahead.

Instead, it appears he prefers to "play nice enough" with the GOP to preserve his Congressional standing while continuing to take pot-shots from the sidelines and encourage folks to "explore all 3rd party alternatives".

All due respect for the man, but that's not active leadership -- it's passive "spokesmanship."

So basically Barr was getting even because Ron Paul refused the LP nomination? He just put himself out on a limb actively encouraging others to vote third party. You really think that the Republicans want to play nice with him?! Gimme a break! I doubt he wanted to play nice. If anything, he alienated them.
 
It is this type of myopic thinking that has gotten us where we are. Minor factions fighting for the left over tablescraps instead of joining together, standing up and taking back what is rightfully ours.

I can now see that Barr = pathetic, puny little man. He just lost my vote today for creating yet another pointlessly stupid rift within our group over nothing more then his foolish pride.
 
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