Are We a Nation of Idiots?

[Theocrat]

I am absolutely appalled that our government would even think we can solve our debt crisis by getting ourselves into more debt, thus, calling to raise the debt ceiling. Isn't it common sense that one cannot borrow himself out of debt?! You don't need to be a professional economist to understand that.

It makes me wonder how our officials live with their own personal finances. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't pay their bills and debts by putting themselves in more debt. That wouldn't solve anything, and it would be a bigger financial burden on their families. However, somehow, they have this twisted logic (and false hope) that increasing our debt to pay off debt will work on a national scale. We are living in an idiocracy.

 

[Icymudpuppy]

To answer the question in the thread title:

YES

 

[Sola_Fide]

Yes. Also we are a nation of immoral people. Money is moral, because through money you have the issues of theft and honesty.

 

[Jeez]

I am absolutely appalled that our government would even think we can solve our debt crisis by getting ourselves into more debt, thus, calling to raise the debt ceiling. Isn't it common sense that one cannot borrow himself out of debt?! You don't need to be a professional economist to understand that.

It makes me wonder how our officials live with their own personal finances. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't pay their bills and debts by putting themselves in more debt. That wouldn't solve anything, and it would be a bigger financial burden on their families. However, somehow, they have this twisted logic (and false hope) that increasing our debt to pay off debt will work on a national scale. We are living in an idiocracy.

The conundrum is how do you solve the deficit either increase spending or reduce spending in which case the recession will continue because one of the things that contributed to economic growth in past 10 years was the increased government spending.

 

[MelissaWV]

Actually, it is fairly common in this country to borrow in order to get oneself out of immediate crisis.

If it were not, the average credit card debt in this country would not be calculated at nearly $14,000/household. That is an overestimate to be sure (due to the methods used to arrive at such numbers), but I don't think it'd be crazy to think that $10,000/household is a good number to use.

When those bills come due, you can swap to a new credit card (offers come in the mail here all the time for my parents) that has a lower interest rate, more miles, a shinier card. You still carry the balance around, but now you have a fresh start. Supposedly. It's very common, and it's very sad. I am willing to bet the people in Washington are mostly financed, just as the average person is. The difference is the limit on those cards, and the liklihood that the card will ever get taken away.

 

[Carson]

You can look at us as idiots. Which would be kind.

There may also be the perspective as thieves.

Whenever we print up money we don't have we suck the life out of the money that is out there. Much of it spread out globally. It is a stealth, back door type of socialism.

Should someone we have just made a deal with have his money's value under cut before he can get it home? That is some of what we are doing. We loot their wealth to finance things here and apparently a new world order.



I’m afraid the deck is stacked against law, order, and freedom.

When I started looking into where the money was coming from to buy off the politicians and subvert the immigration laws of the world, I came across what may be the root of many of our problems. Fiat Money.

No matter how much real money people can put together to build their countries the way they want there are those that can print up what ever it takes to get their way.

Maybe this will help make the danger of fiat money clear.

Imagine you and me are setting across from each other. We create enough money to represent all of the world's wealth. Each one of us has one SUPER Dollar in front of him.

You own half of everything and so do I.

I'm the government though. I get bribed into creating a Central Bank.

You're not doing what I want you to be doing so I print up myself eight more SUPER Dollars to manipulate you with.

All of a sudden your SUPER Dollar only represents one tenth of the wealth of the world!
That isn't the only thing though. You need to get busy and get to work because YOU'VE BEEN STIFFED with the bill for the money I PRINTED UP to get YOU TO DO what I WANTED.

That to me represents what has been happening to the economy, and us, and why so many of our occupations just can't keep up with the fake money presses.



With the way we have allowed some to tap into the profits of capitalism it seems clear to me it has been strangled to death for decades.

 

[awake]

I am absolutely appalled that our government would even think we can solve our debt crisis by getting ourselves into more debt, thus, calling to raise the debt ceiling. Isn't it common sense that one cannot borrow himself out of debt?! You don't need to be a professional economist to understand that.

It makes me wonder how our officials live with their own personal finances. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't pay their bills and debts by putting themselves in more debt. That wouldn't solve anything, and it would be a bigger financial burden on their families. However, somehow, they have this twisted logic (and false hope) that increasing our debt to pay off debt will work on a national scale. We are living in an idiocracy.

The United States in nothing more than a group of individuals. There are those who know better and those who are literally imbecilic within this group of individuals. It only becomes a problem when the imbeciles congregate with guns and start issuing orders do we run into trouble.

 

[LibertyEagle]

The United States in nothing more than a group of individuals. There are those who know better and those who are literally imbecilic within this group of individuals. It only becomes a problem when the imbeciles congregate with guns and start issuing orders do we run into trouble.

I'd rephrase a bit...

It only becomes a problem when individuals who know better allow imbeciles to be voted into office to write unconstitutional laws for years on end, with little recourse.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

I am absolutely appalled that our government would even think we can solve our debt crisis by getting ourselves into more debt, thus, calling to raise the debt ceiling. Isn't it common sense that one cannot borrow himself out of debt?! You don't need to be a professional economist to understand that.

It makes me wonder how our officials live with their own personal finances. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't pay their bills and debts by putting themselves in more debt. That wouldn't solve anything, and it would be a bigger financial burden on their families. However, somehow, they have this twisted logic (and false hope) that increasing our debt to pay off debt will work on a national scale. We are living in an idiocracy.

Almost everyone's brainwashed and no longer has the ability to think independently.

 

[Seraphim]

Welcome to the history of the world.

We are the same as 2 thousand yeards ago, just dressed up in different clothes, bigger houses and better technology.

Almost everyone's brainwashed and no longer has the ability to think independently.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

We are the same as 2 thousand yeards ago, just dressed up in different clothes, bigger houses and better technology.

I concur. It's definitely the craziest it's ever been now though because the government is pretty much at total war with the peoples of the world without the pretense of civility they had before.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Actually, it is fairly common in this country to borrow in order to get oneself out of immediate crisis.

If it were not, the average credit card debt in this country would not be calculated at nearly $14,000/household. That is an overestimate to be sure (due to the methods used to arrive at such numbers), but I don't think it'd be crazy to think that $10,000/household is a good number to use.

When those bills come due, you can swap to a new credit card (offers come in the mail here all the time for my parents) that has a lower interest rate, more miles, a shinier card. You still carry the balance around, but now you have a fresh start. Supposedly. It's very common, and it's very sad. I am willing to bet the people in Washington are mostly financed, just as the average person is. The difference is the limit on those cards, and the liklihood that the card will ever get taken away.

That's a somewhat recent phenomenon. Debt has been pushed by the Banksters forever, but they really took control about 20 years ago to completely change the mentality of the government and the public. It was quite a successful marketing campaign. It worked especially well with the governments of Greece, Ireland and the US.

 

[eworthington]

Yes. Also we are a nation of immoral people. Money is moral, because through money you have the issues of theft and honesty.

In all honesty, at least for Christians, money is probably amoral. The morality of money has more to do with why it was acquired, how it was acquired, and for what purposes it will be used.

I am not trying to nitpick AquaBuddha, and I hope you don't take it that way.

-EW

 

[moderate libertarian]

That is a loaded question.

 

[Cowlesy]

We're on drugs man. Withdrawal sucks -- you postpone it until the bitter end!

 

[hazek]

It's not just your country, it's all the people on the entire planet. We are all slaves to the banksters fiat monetary system and very few of us realize this.

 

[Working Poor]

yes/

 

[YumYum]

We are a nation of "dummies", not "idiots". There is a difference.

definition of "idiot":

"A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard against common dangers. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive."

definition of "dummy":

"an idiot who voted for Bush or Obama."

 

[madengr]

One of my favorite bands. Very prophetic for 20 years ago:

 

[LibertyEagle]

It's not just your country, it's all the people on the entire planet. We are all slaves to the banksters fiat monetary system and very few of us realize this.

I'm pretty sure that people, here, realize that. We are doing our best to turn it around. We didn't get to this point overnight and we aren't going to turn it around overnight, either.