Alex Jones gets his @*#% handed to him by Bill Ayers

[Ralph Coffman]

*** Best Alex Jones Interview ever! *** - . Bill Ayers let Alex Jones make a fool of himself. Great Job Mr. Ayers. I love Alex but Good God Alex. Enough of the Hyped up Bullshit of passing on untrue information. Just because the main stream media says it, doesn't mean it's True. Even if it's about a perceived enemy. How convenient to pass the lie on knowingly or without checking if it benefits your Narrative or Agenda- http://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-debates-bill-ayers/

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[jmdrake]

*** Best Alex Jones Interview ever! *** - . Bill Ayers let Alex Jones make a fool of himself. Great Job Mr. Ayers. I love Alex but Good God Alex. Enough of the Hyped up Bullshit of passing on untrue information. Just because the main stream media says it, doesn't mean it's True. Even if it's about a perceived enemy. How convenient to pass the lie on knowingly or without checking if it benefits your Narrative or Agenda- http://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-debates-bill-ayers/

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So let me get this straight. You're cheering on an avowed communist terrorist? Really? Are you sure you're at the right forum?

 

[Ralph Coffman]

So let me get this straight. You're cheering on an avowed communist terrorist? Really? Are you sure you're at the right forum?

When you finally get around to listening to Bill Ayers himself in his own words, you tell me what he says in this entire interview that you disagree with. I'd like to see it in writing for myself.

 

[brushfire]

Stockholm syndrome?

 

[Cleaner44]

*** Best Alex Jones Interview ever! *** - . Bill Ayers let Alex Jones make a fool of himself. Great Job Mr. Ayers. I love Alex but Good God Alex. Enough of the Hyped up Bullshit of passing on untrue information. Just because the main stream media says it, doesn't mean it's True. Even if it's about a perceived enemy. How convenient to pass the lie on knowingly or without checking if it benefits your Narrative or Agenda- http://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-debates-bill-ayers/

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I am 17 minutes into this and all I can say is that Bill Ayers is clearly intelligent, dishonest and misguided.

I can only guess that you Ralph are somehow a believer of socialist democracies.

Not impressed.

 

[squarepusher]

Hitler was just misunderstood

 

[Spikender]

What did Ralph do to deserve all that neg rep?

 

[jmdrake]

When you finally get around to listening to Bill Ayers himself in his own words, you tell me what he says in this entire interview that you disagree with. I'd like to see it in writing for myself.

Listening to it now. What's your point? That if he can do a 40 minute interview that sounds good that's the truth? Okay. I think Alex did a poor job on this one. He should have asked Bill Ayers about the book "Prairie Fire."

http://www.sds-1960s.org/PrairieFire-reprint.pdf

Here is the quote you should pay attention to on page 24:

"Socialism is the opposite of capitalism/imperialism. It is the rejection of empire and white supremacy. Socialism is the violent overthrow of the bourgeoisie, the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and the eradication of a social system based on profit. Socialism means the control of the productive forces for good by the whole community instead of corporate greed. Socialism creates the conditions for a decent and creative life for all."

Note that Bill Ayers signed off as a co-author of Prairie Fire.

In this debate with Alex Jones, Bill Ayers not only tries to pretend there's a big difference between socialism and communism, but then he tries to even distance himself from socialism by talking about "participatory democracy" and throwing up a brand new term "economic participatory democracy." Alex Jones should have given him enough rope to hang himself with on that by defining it instead of talking over Ayers whenever he (Ayers) brought that up.

So I throw your challenge back to you. Read "Prairie Fire", especially pages 22 - 26 (the section titled "What we think", and let me know if you agree or disagree with that. David Duke will do interviews today with a lot of stuff that I agree with. That doesn't change the fact that he at least was (and in my opinion still is) a virulent racist. But Bill Ayers wasn't even willing to disavow his past like David Duke has!

 

[jmdrake]

What did Ralph do to deserve all that neg rep?

Well I didn't neg rep him. I generally don't do that unless someone is ridiculously over the top and/or is neg repping me.. But praising Bill Ayers on a liberty forum? The neg reps are not surprising. I will agree with Ralph on this much. Bill Ayers was very smooth in that "debate" and Alex Jones was an idiot. Alex should have spent time going over what Bill Ayers actually wrote instead of bouncing around from one dubious connection (George Soros) to another (Melissa Harris Perry). Goodness, it's almost like Alex Jones was working with Bill Ayers to help him rehabilitate his image.

 

[pcosmar]

What did Ralph do to deserve all that neg rep?

Whacking the hornets nest.
Supporting a socialist.

New guy posting stupid shit that has already been posted and discussed.

Take your pick.

 

[Spikender]

Well I didn't neg rep him. I generally don't do that unless someone is ridiculously over the top and/or is neg repping me.. But praising Bill Ayers on a liberty forum? The neg reps are not surprising. I will agree with Ralph on this much. Bill Ayers was very smooth in that "debate" and Alex Jones was an idiot. Alex should have spent time going over what Bill Ayers actually wrote instead of bouncing around from one dubious connection (George Soros) to another (Melissa Harris Perry). Goodness, it's almost like Alex Jones was working with Bill Ayers to help him rehabilitate his image.

They're not surprising, I just find people shooting them at trolls/weird newcomers for stuff like this to be weird. Maybe because I have never handed out a neg rep before I just have a different view. I like seeing crazy statists/trolls/newcomers on this website. It's both a challenge and a breath of fresh air.

Whacking the hornets nest.
Supporting a socialist.

New guy posting stupid shit that has already been posted and discussed.

Take your pick.

Whacking a hornet's nest isn't a bad thing, it's just stupid. Give him advice on why not to whack a hornet's nest.

Supporting a socialist doesn't make you a bad person, just misinformed.

That last one is always annoying, but hardly deserving of a neg rep.

 

[William Tell]

Whacking the hornets nest.
Supporting a socialist.

New guy posting stupid shit that has already been posted and discussed.

Take your pick.

I won't neg him, he hasn't been here long enough to know what he thinks on other matters. I don't think scaring off new members is smart, until you at least know what sort they are. Negging someone for posting about something that was discussed before he was here is just plain dumb.

And BTW AJ is great, and I don't like Bill Ayers and communism at all.

 

[brushfire]

What did Ralph do to deserve all that neg rep?

None from me.

 

[pcosmar]

I won't neg him, he hasn't been here long enough to know what he thinks on other matters. I don't think scaring off new members is smart. Negging someone for posting about something that was discussed before he was here is just plain dumb.

And BTW AJ is great, and I don't like Bill Ayers and communism at all. The OP was kinda rude to AJ though.

I have never been a follower of AJ,, But he has broken several stories,, and he was one of the few that gave Dr. Paul a platform.

I am now curious who +repped him and for what.?

I suspect if he sticks around,, he will fully earn a red bar.

 

[Slave Mentality]

OP just fell for a slick talker. Hard not to when Jones sounds like a psyco I guess, but C'mon man. Jones could of had him had he calmed down and let the lies do their work. Very weird interview.

 

[jmdrake]

OP just fell for a slick talker. Hard not to when Jones sounds like a psyco I guess, but C'mon man. Jones could of had him had he calmed down and let the lies do their work. Very weird interview.

I agree. I could have done a better job and that's not saying much. Jones has a research team. He could have come up with some hard facts instead of all of this "Do you deny that George Soros funds you and MSNBC treats you like the messiah" BS. I honestly have no idea where Alex Jones was going with all of that.

 

[donnay]

I agree. I could have done a better job and that's not saying much. Jones has a research team. He could have come up with some hard facts instead of all of this "Do you deny that George Soros funds you and MSNBC treats you like the messiah" BS. I honestly have no idea where Alex Jones was going with all of that.

I think David Knight should have interviewed Bill. This is not one of Jones' best interviews, IMHO.

 

[sparebulb]

I'd like to read more posts by Ralph and learn more about his views and and insights.

/s

 

[pcosmar]

I'd like to read more posts by Ralph and learn more about his views and and insights.

/s

Not much in his 4 posts,, other than little clue about the forum he joined. I am curious as well.
I gave him the -rep on his gray box for the stupid post.. And that interview had been posted and discussed in the past.

I would happily have given a +rep if it had been anyway deserved.. and mine hit for +22.

handing out +rep for inane bullshit sort of defeats the purpose.

 

[JK/SEA]

I'd like to read more posts by Ralph and learn more about his views and and insights.

/s

steer him over to the Duke thread....fun times.