Airliners to charge by the pound?

Think about it differently and throw out the textbook. Because fares are in part determined by the input costs that airlines incur in the production process. Hence my fare for flying is payment for my share of the service the airline is providing. If the airline does not use fuel costs as one ioda of a factor in determining their fares, then fine, I will defer....but that is not the case. If a plane was flying at full capacity with everyone on board weighing 100 lbs side by side a plane flying full capacity with everyone on board weighing 300 lbs would the costs of the flights be the same, all else being equal? No. Therefore, if an airline uses fuel costs as a variable in their price determinate, then it can be said that my fare is payment for (in part) the share of the fuel costs that my weight incurs. In this sense, I, at say 100 lbs, am paying a higher pewrcentage of the fuel costs then someone weighing 300lbs. Is that not price discrimination?

I understand the textbook definition of price discriminations in varying degrees.

No. That is NOT price descrimination. It would be price descrimination if weight was NOT a factor in costs. But in your exmaple, weight IS a factor in costs which is why you being charged differenly based on your weight is NOT price descrimination.

Btw, there are many defitions for "price descrimination", but only is correct (depending on the context, of course). Just like are many definitons for "inflation" but only definiton is correct.
 
No. That is NOT price descrimination. It would be price descrimination if weight was NOT a factor in costs. But in your exmaple, weight IS a factor in costs which is why you being charged differenly based on your weight is NOT price descrimination.

Btw, there are many defitions for "price descrimination", but only is correct (depending on the context, of course). Just like are many definitons for "inflation" but only definiton is correct.

Okay, so even though a customer's weight is a factor of airline fares insofar that more weight = more fuel = higher airline servicing (production) costs = (passed through to customer's) higher fares...

...then the fact that a customer paying the same fare even though they weigh less, hence consume less fuel and in turn cost less for the airline, is not a form of discrimination in price per customer?

Yes, there are several definitions of price discrimination and different degrees. I am not using textbook definitions of price discrimination, I am using economic logic and reason instead.

By definition we are not in a recession either, but factor in the loss of value in the currency (vs a basket of major) currencies over a given period of time (beg of 07)and re-calculate the real rate of GDP and let me know what you come up with.
 
People have no right to prevent discrimination by other private citizens anyways...

If I saw a man with tatoos walk in my shop, I ought to be able to charge him 500% if I damn well please. Probably a stupid business and ethical decision, but as the owner of the shop, it is mine to make.
 
People have no right to prevent discrimination by other private citizens anyways...

If I saw a man with tatoos walk in my shop, I ought to be able to charge him 500% if I damn well please. Probably a stupid business and ethical decision, but as the owner of the shop, it is mine to make.

I completely agree, that is not what I am arguing. Their pricing is model dicriminatory, but so be it.
 
electronicmaji said:
Anyways airlines are not suffering losses. This policy will last 5 minutes before they get sued. Hell I'd sue them, cause I refuse to pay more just because im fat.

Airlines arent suffering losses? Sounds like a buying opportunity... :rolleyes:

No shit! With airline stocks currently extremely low, should I just buy all of them, or do you maji have any particular hot ones I should jump on?
 
Theyre not doing well because the economy is doing well...but they're not suffering losses..in 2003 they were suffering losses. Not now
 
Okay, so even though a customer's weight is a factor of airline fares insofar that more weight = more fuel = higher airline servicing (production) costs = (passed through to customer's) higher fares...

...then the fact that a customer paying the same fare even though they weigh less, hence consume less fuel and in turn cost less for the airline, is not a form of discrimination in price per customer?

Well, in you NEW example, no. One becuase element for price discrimination is that costs are the same (in your example they are not the same).

Yes, there are several definitions of price discrimination and different degrees. I am not using textbook definitions of price discrimination, I am using economic logic and reason instead.

sure. but your economic logic is bound by pre-determined definitions or certain terms and concepts. i use economic logic and reason to determine that your example is not an example of price discrimination.



By definition we are not in a recession either, but factor in the loss of value in the currency (vs a basket of major) currencies over a given period of time (beg of 07)and re-calculate the real rate of GDP and let me know what you come up with.

this is a great example. according to the government we are not in recession, but then again, they have their definition of "recession" to underestimate the CPI and GDP. i dont accept the governments definition of recession because their definition is flawed.
 
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Actually I think I'm gonna preemptively start a lawsuit. Ain't this free market great? A bunch of consumers like me can sue them, keep them tied up with lawyers fees, until they give in...even though we might not win in court. But it doesn't matter, It will never get there.
 
Actually I think I'm gonna preemptively start a lawsuit. Ain't this free market great? A bunch of consumers like me can sue them, keep them tied up with lawyers fees, until they give in...even though we might not win in court. But it doesn't matter, It will never get there.

Hopefully they will sue you for wasted their time.
 
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