Abortion, a slimebag’s best friend

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Abortion, a slimebag’s best friend

http://liveactionnews.org/abortion-a-slimebags-best-friend/

26-year-old Remee Lee says she was “elated” when she discovered she was pregnant with her first child.

She and her boyfriend, John Andrew Welden, had broken up once already, but reunited in February. She knew she loved Andrew and wanted to keep the baby. But when she told him, he didn’t take the news very well—and “pleaded” with her to abort.

“I was never going to do anything but go full term with it, and he didn’t want me to,” Remee told a Tampa TV station.

When it became clear he wasn’t getting his way, Andrew took Remee to see his father, a doctor. He later called and said he had bad news—Remee had a bacterial infection and needed antibiotics.

According to the AP, “Welden forged his father’s signature on a prescription for Cytotec and relabeled a pill bottle as ‘Amoxicillin.’ Cytotec, known also as misoprostol, is a drug used to induce labor.” Remee started bleeding and went to the hospital—where she learned that Andrew had killed her child. Andrew is now facing murder charges under the Unborn Victims of Violence Act.

 

[Carson]

"Abortions allow irresponsible people to continue to live irresponsibly."

-Someone on Fark.com

 

[Sola_Fide]

Wow

 

[Antischism]

Wow, that's awful. Imagine if abortion were illegal everywhere? This would be happening more often, even self-induced!

 

[jmdrake]

Wow, that's awful. Imagine if abortion were illegal everywhere? This would be happening more often, even self-induced!

Some comments are too stupid to even respond to.

 

[gwax23]

disgusting. hope the basterd rots

 

[Christian Liberty]

Some comments are too stupid to even respond to.

Wait, you mean to say that if murder were illegal, murder would happen? Oh, I guess we might as well legalize it since its definitely going to happen anyway

I do have to say there's a huge hypocricy with charging this guy with murder, considering if the woman had consented it would have been legal to kill the baby. I still don't care though, that so many escape justice is no reason why this man should. Lock him away and never let him out.

 

[jmdrake]

Wait, you mean to say that if murder were illegal, murder would happen? Oh, I guess we might as well legalize it since its definitely going to happen anyway

Ummm...no. I wasn't saying that. The poster I was responding to seemed to be saying that.

I do have to say there's a huge hypocricy with charging this guy with murder, considering if the woman had consented it would have been legal to kill the baby. I still don't care though, that so many escape justice is no reason why this man should. Lock him away and never let him out.

I agree. It makes no sense that only women are allowed to have violence against a fetus.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Ummm...no. I wasn't saying that. The poster I was responding to seemed to be saying that.

Sorry, I was trying to back you up, but quoted the wrong post. My apologies.

I agree. It makes no sense that only women are allowed to have violence against a fetus.

If the fetus were really part of the woman's body, like the pro-choicers say, this should be assault but not murder. Calling it murder implies that a human life was ended. Which, I believe it was, but the pro-choicers will never agree.

 

[Antischism]

Some comments are too stupid to even respond to.

Is it not true that if abortion were illegal, it would lead to more "back room" abortions?

Sorry I don't agree with the majority of the board. I'm pro-choice, and that stance is not changing.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Is it not true that if abortion were illegal, it would lead to more "back room" abortions?

Sorry I don't agree with the majority of the board. I'm pro-choice, and that stance is not changing.

Even if its true, its completely irrelevant. The idea of legalizing murder in order to prevent illegal murder from happening is just silly.

I understand you don't agree with this. You think a fetus (At least at conception) does not have rights, and therefore you think that abortion is a victimless crime. But then, you should be defending that, not using an argument that definitely isn't yours such as "But if murder is banned, illegal murder will happen more..."

I mean, DUH!

 

[tod evans]

Sorry I don't agree with the majority of the board. I'm pro-choice, and that stance is not changing.

And the father exercised his choice in this particular instance..

If a mother has the "right" to abort their fetus, then it's only fair that the father has that same "right"..

 

[jmdrake]

Is it not true that if abortion were illegal, it would lead to more "back room" abortions?

A) That's conjecture.

B) This wasn't a "back room" abortion. This was a medical abortion by subterfuge. There is no reason to believe that if abortion were illegal, more men would be tricking their girlfriends into getting abortions.

Sorry I don't agree with the majority of the board. I'm pro-choice, and that stance is not changing.

Oh, believe what you want. But the stupid comment was still stupid.

 

[Miss Annie]

I view abortion in this context :
I am a smoker. If I developed lung cancer, it would be my fault by my own doing. If after being diagnosed with cancer, a doctor came in the room and held out a box with a button and said that I could save my own life by pushing the button, which would in turn take the life of someone else. That is murder to serve my own purposes, and not a whole lot different than abortion.

 

[Smart3]

I view abortion in this context :
I am a smoker. If I developed lung cancer, it would be my fault by my own doing. If after being diagnosed with cancer, a doctor came in the room and held out a box with a button and said that I could save my own life by pushing the button, which would in turn take the life of someone else. That is murder to serve my own purposes, and not a whole lot different than abortion.

The difference there is that you'd kill a person in your cancer instance, even if someone believes a fetus is a human being that should be protected, they are not (and have never been) legally persons. So it's not similar.

 

[Antischism]

Even if its true, its completely irrelevant. The idea of legalizing murder in order to prevent illegal murder from happening is just silly.

I understand you don't agree with this. You think a fetus (At least at conception) does not have rights, and therefore you think that abortion is a victimless crime. But then, you should be defending that, not using an argument that definitely isn't yours such as "But if murder is banned, illegal murder will happen more..."

I mean, DUH!

It wasn't meant to be an argument for or against (although it's a reason to be against a ban on a federal level), just a snarky comment for the most part. Since I don't believe abortion should be illegal or that it's murder, I view back room abortions as making a potentially bad situation worse. I would rather women have the option to safely abort than resort to unsafe practices out of desperation. Personal responsibility and avoiding having to even think about abortion is of course best, but if a woman truly wanted to have an abortion and it was before or around the third trimester, I don't see what the issue is because I don't yet consider it to be life, just potential. Past that, I haven't made up my mind. I don't view abortion in absolutes, though. I find Rothbard's case on evictionism to be fascinating.

 

[Miss Annie]

The difference there is that you'd kill a person in your cancer instance, even if someone believes a fetus is a human being that should be protected, they are not (and have never been) legally persons. So it's not similar.

Well you are right, the difference is in beliefs.

 

[Antischism]

And the father exercised his choice in this particular instance..

If a mother has the "right" to abort their fetus, then it's only fair that the father has that same "right"..

It's in the woman's body, not the man's. The woman ultimately decides, since it's her body, but in this case, she was assaulted. Pregnant or not, you don't trick people into taking medication they weren't prescribed or chose to take. You can't force a person to do something to their body by force; it's the person who decides what they do with their own body, as should be the case for all pregnant women.

 

[Antischism]

A) That's conjecture.

B) This wasn't a "back room" abortion. This was a medical abortion by subterfuge. There is no reason to believe that if abortion were illegal, more men would be tricking their girlfriends into getting abortions.



Oh, believe what you want. But the stupid comment was still stupid.

Yes, that's true. But my comment wasn't strictly regarding the story, rather this notion that all abortions are murder and should be illegal, which I don't agree with. Based on my stance on the abortion issue, back room abortions would be an awful effect of making it illegal to abort something that isn't alive, thus infringing on the rights of the host to do what they please with their body.

 

[Eagles' Wings]

The difference there is that you'd kill a person in your cancer instance, even if someone believes a fetus is a human being that should be protected, they are not (and have never been) legally persons. So it's not similar.

I'm truly glad you were born, Smart3.