11 states have counties with more registered voters than people of voting age

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Alabama: Choctaw, Conecuh, Greene, Hale, Lowndes, Macon, Marengo, Perry, Washington, Wilcox.

Florida: Clay, Flagler, Okaloosa, Osceola, Santa Rosa, St. Johns.

Georgia: Bryan, Columbia, DeKalb, Fayette, Forsyth, Fulton, Lee, Marion, McIntosh, Oconee.

Illinois: Alexander, Bureau, Cass, Clark, Cook, Crawford, DuPage, Franklin, Grundy, Hardin, Henderson, Jefferson, Jersey, Massac, McHenry, Mercer, Monroe, Pulaski, Rock Island, Sangamon, Scott, Union, Wabash, Washington, White.

Iowa: Scott, Johnson.

Kentucky: Anderson, Bath, Boone, Breathitt, Caldwell, Carlisle, Cumberland, Fulton, Gallatin, Greenup, Hancock, Henry, Jefferson, Jessamine, Kenton, Livingston, Magoffin, McCracken, Menifee, Mercer, Monroe, Oldham, Powell, Russell, Scott, Spencer, Trigg, Trimble, Wolfe, Woodford.

Maryland: Montgomery.

New Jersey: Essex, Somerset.

New York: Nassau.

North Carolina: Buncombe, Camden, Chatham, Cherokee, Clay, Dare, Durham, Guilford, Madison, Mecklenburg, New Hanover, Orange, Union, Watauga, Yancey.

Tennessee: Williamson.





But remember: only 3 cases of voter fraud per billion or some other such nonsense.....
 
Half assed article at it's best.. I'm not disagreeing but if they can report what counties.. they can report the numbers too. Discrepancies matter

2 more registered voters or 2000.. ? reporters.. pffffft
 
There a purge making news in GA.

More Than 380,000 Georgia Voters Receive ‘Purge Notice’

More than 380,000 Georgia voters received a “purge notice” from their local board of elections under the direction of the Georgia Secretary of State’s Office, Rewire has learned through an open records request.

The ACLU sent a letter earlier this month to Secretary of State Brian Kemp and to the chairperson of the Fulton County Board of Registration and Elections alleging that these notices, when sent to voters who moved within the same county, violate the National Voter Registration Act of 1993. The letter requested more information about the notices that were sent out and officially informed the named officials of their intent to sue if corrective actions are not taken.

Fulton County resident Stacey Hopkins received an official piece of mail on July 3 informing her that, “If you do not return the attached card within 30 days, you will be moved to an inactive [voter] status.”

“I opened the notice, it was on July 3 right before Independence Day,” Hopkins told Rewire in a July 14 phone interview. “And I opened it and I read the first line and to be honest the first thing my mind said was, ‘This is bull.’ Because of the work that I’ve done doing voter registration in the state and being a part of a coalition of voter empowerment and civic engagement groups, I immediately recognized it for what it was.”

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Hopkins, the ACLU, and the Secretary of State’s Office agree on one point: Being an “inactive” voter does not impact a voter’s ability to cast a ballot.

“Being an inactive voter does not mean I am off the voter rolls, but it is the first step to taking me off. And I’ve had enough of that,” Hopkins said.

After a voter has been moved to an inactive status, their registration will be canceled if they do not update their voter registration or vote in an election over the next four years. There is a separate lawsuit, filed by Common Cause Georgia earlier this year, challenging the policy of changing voter registration status simply for not voting. The organization is currently appealing a lower court’s decision to throw out the suit.

Hopkins and the ACLU are challenging the legality of these notices being sent to voters who moved within the same county. When voters are still covered by the same board of elections—which in Georgia is handled by the counties—they fall under a different set of rules as part of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 than voters who move to a new county. The Georgia Secretary of State’s Office was unable to provide Rewire with data about how many of the 380,000 notices went to voters who moved within the same county.

“Once you are registered, it should be very difficult to get someone off the rolls. And that was the whole intention of the National Voter Registration Act. And what they are doing is putting the onus [on voters] to take further action, but they are already registered,” Hopkins said.

Broce, the press secretary for the secretary of state’s office, told Rewire by email that, “It has literally never been easier to get registered to vote in Georgia,” [original emphasis maintained] citing the myriad ways voters can register: on its website, on a smartphone app, with a paper application, or through a new texting program its office has piloted.

But the landscape of voting laws in Georgia looks very different than it did a decade ago, and Kemp, the top election official in Georgia and a candidate for governor, has been the subject of criticism over his handling of the voting process. His office settled a lawsuit in February over the use of a controversial “exact match” program that prevents voters from registering if there is even a small discrepancy in the voter’s information on their ID compared with their registration. The lawsuit noted that although Black applicants only made up about one in three voter registration applicants from 2013-2016, they comprised almost two-thirds of the rejected applicants based on the “exact match” voter verification technique. Latino and Asian-American voter registration applicants were similarly disproportionately impacted by the policy.

However, state legislators revived the use of a similar matching protocol less than a month later, much to the chagrin of the voting rights groups involved in the lawsuit. That law went into effect July 1.

Georgia’s history with controversial voter suppression tactics goes back even further. The state was one of the first to implement a restrictive voter ID law in 2007 under then-Secretary of State Karen Handel. A recent Washington Post analysis of voter turnout across multiple election cycles in states with strict voter ID laws points to the negative impact these laws have on people of color and those with low incomes.

Until the landmark 2013 Supreme Court decision in Shelby County v. Holder, Georgia was subject to the Department of Justice’s (DOJ) preclearance program, which required certain states and municipalities with histories of voter suppression to submit changes to voting laws to the DOJ for approval.

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https://rewire.news/article/2017/07/21/more-380000-georgia-voters-received-purge-notice/

U.S. Justice Department also seeks voter information from Georgia

The U.S. Justice Department has asked Georgia to explain how it updates and tracks voter registration records as well as removes voters from its rolls who should no longer be eligible to vote.

The Georgia Secretary of State’s Office confirmed it has received a three-page letter from the head of the department’s voting section seeking the information as part of a national request under the National Voter Registration Act. At least 44 states are believed to have received the letters, which in some cases also seeks data on how many voters were removed from the rolls under a specific time period.

Georgia’s letter, however, relates specifically to its policies and regulations. Officials said they are still working on their response and have not yet sent an answer. The department requested the information within 30 days of the letter’s June 28 mailing.


Under state law, registered voters are mailed a confirmation notice following a more than three-year period of “no contact” with election officials. If voters do not respond to the notice within thirty days, they are designated as inactive — something that does not prevent them from voting and does not change their registration status.

If voters then remain inactive for two federal election cycles, meaning they have not voted or had contact with election officials for at least another four years, they are removed from voting rolls. This would include voters who have moved to another state or who have died.

A federal judge in March dismissed a lawsuit that claimed the state’s “trigger” for contacting voters violated federal voting laws. The Georgia NAACP and government watchdog group Common Cause, which are appealing the ruling, claimed voters have a constitutional right not to vote. The groups said state officials should not demand confirmation of address if they have no reason to believe a voter had moved or died other than that they had not cast a ballot.

U.S. District Judge Timothy C. Batten Sr., however, said the state had taken a “reasonable and nondiscriminatory” approach in trying to reach voters who had not cast a recent ballot to confirm their addresses. Georgia’s law had been cleared for use by the Justice Department in 1997.

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http://www.ajc.com/news/state--regi...ormation-from-georgia/GJ5nQS1nUHhz4r2c88nmeN/
 
Some of it may have to do with people who have died or moved away.

If you move and don't tell the state/ county, you remain on the voter rolls. Is that fraud? If you die, and they are not told to remove your name, is that voter fraud? Some 24 million moved last year and another 1.8 million registered voters died. That can leave a lot of discrepancies on voter registration rolls. Is it massive fraud? Just poor records.

Studies Agree: Impersonation Fraud by Voters Very Rarely Happens

The Brennan Center’s seminal report on this issue, The Truth About Voter Fraud, found that most reported incidents of voter fraud are actually traceable to other sources, such as clerical errors or bad data matching practices. The report reviewed elections that had been meticulously studied for voter fraud, and found incident rates between 0.0003 percent and 0.0025 percent. Given this tiny incident rate for voter impersonation fraud, it is more likely, the report noted, that an American “will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.”

A study published by a Columbia University political scientist tracked incidence rates for voter fraud for two years, and found that the rare fraud that was reported generally could be traced to “false claims by the loser of a close race, mischief and administrative or voter error.”

A 2017 analysis published in The Washington Post concluded that there is no evidence to support Trump’s claim that Massachusetts residents were bused into New Hampshire to vote.

A comprehensive 2014 study published in The Washington Post found 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast. Even this tiny number is likely inflated, as the study’s author counted not just prosecutions or convictions, but any and all credible claims.

Two studies done at Arizona State University, one in 2012 and another in 2016, found similarly negligible rates of impersonation fraud. The project found 10 cases of voter impersonation fraud nationwide from 2000-2012. The follow-up study, which looked for fraud specifically in states where politicians have argued that fraud is a pernicious problem, found zero successful prosecutions for impersonation fraud in five states from 2012-2016.

A review of the 2016 election found four documented cases of voter fraud.

Research into the 2016 election found no evidence of widespread voter fraud.

A 2016 working paper concluded that the upper limit on double voting in the 2012 election was 0.02%. The paper noted that the incident rate was likely much lower, given audits conducted by the researchers showed that “many, if not all, of these apparent double votes could be a result of measurement error.”

A 2014 paper concluded that “the likely percent of non-citizen voters in recent US elections is 0.”

A 2014 nationwide study found “no evidence of widespread impersonation fraud” in the 2012 election.

A 2014 study that examined impersonation fraud both at the polls and by mail ballot found zero instances in the jurisdictions studied.

A 2014 study by the non-partisan Government Accountability Office, which reflected a literature review of the existing research on voter fraud, noted that the studies consistently found “few instances of in-person voter fraud.”

While writing a 2012 book, a researcher went back 30 years to try to find an example of voter impersonation fraud determining the outcome of an election, but was unable to find even one.

A 2012 study exhaustively pulled records from every state for all alleged election fraud, and found the overall fraud rate to be “infinitesimal” and impersonation fraud by voters at the polls to be the rarest fraud of all: only 10 cases alleged in 12 years. The same study found only 56 alleged cases of non-citizen voting, in 12 years.

A 2012 assessment of Georgia’s 2006 election found “no evidence that election fraud was committed under the auspices of deceased registrants.”

A 2011 study by the Republican National Lawyers Association found that, between 2000 and 2010, 21 states had 1 or 0 convictions for voter fraud or other kinds of voting irregularities.

A 2010 book cataloguing reported incidents of voter fraud concluded that nearly all allegations turned out to be clerical errors or mistakes, not fraud.

A 2009 analysis examined 12 states and found that fraud by voters was “very rare,” and also concluded that many of the cases that garnered media attention were ultimately unsubstantiated upon further review.

https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/debunking-voter-fraud-myth

Claims of voter fraud are more often about voter suppression- keeping legitimate voters from casting ballots. Actual voter fraud is very rare.
 
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I own property in three counties here . The county that I grew up in is one of them , I know for a fact that in that county the County Clerk checks obituaries and removes the deceased . Before I even read this I knew Cook County Illinois would be on the list .
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...dbb23c75d82_story.html?utm_term=.2dbbc6fb9927

D.C. to spend $3 million to get names of dead people, other errors off voter rolls

D.C. Mayor Muriel E. Bowser (D) plans to spend $3 million to overhaul the city’s voter registration database, a file that is riddled with errors, including the names of deceased residents and thousands of voters whose births erroneously date to the 1800s, according to a recent audit.

The move comes as President Trump launches a commission on “election integrity” to cut down on voter fraud, but city officials say that is a coincidence.

“There is no connection. This decision was made well before President Trump’s election integrity commission,” Bowser spokesman Kevin Harris said Tuesday.

The mayor and members of the D.C. Council, many of whom announced Tuesday that they would back the effort, said they also have far different motives than those they perceive as propelling Trump’s commission.

The president’s board includes those who support strict voter ID laws, and the effort follows unsubstantiated claims Trump made shortly after taking office that more than 3 million undocumented immigrants voted illegally in November’s election. The commission is supposed to report next year on suspect election practices, with the accuracy of voter rolls expected to be an area of focus.

For one, when the city moved to computerized records about 20 years ago, the system automatically entered “1800” as the default birth year for every registered voter who did not have a birth date listed. District officials began using a system that allowed them to check records against Social Security numbers in 2014, but they did not clean up the data. An audit last year found 6,543 voters in the system who were born between 1800 and 1899 — a number the auditor wrote “must be inaccurate.

D.C. elections officials also told auditors they had purged hundreds of names of people who had died from city voter rolls in recent years, but auditors randomly checked 33 names of voters who had died between 2011 and 2014, and all of them were still listed in the voter database.
 
If you remove the known deceased as you go it costs nothing . It is basically done by an employee already on the payroll . Common Sense .
 
Half assed article at it's best.. I'm not disagreeing but if they can report what counties.. they can report the numbers too. Discrepancies matter

2 more registered voters or 2000.. ? reporters.. pffffft

As if it matters. If there are only 2 more is still a ton, because only about 60% of residents in most counties are registered to vote. So even if it is 2 more, that means either a. the county has 100% voter registration (not even) or b. up to 40% of registered voters are illegally registered.
 
Democrats need to bring their old demented great grandparents in and register them to vote. This Republican voter fraud is getting out of hand.

We need activist that know the rules.
 
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As if it matters. If there are only 2 more is still a ton, because only about 60% of residents in most counties are registered to vote. So even if it is 2 more, that means either a. the county has 100% voter registration (not even) or b. up to 40% of registered voters are illegally registered.

While I do not disagree, how the hell do they rank without the numbers? It was much more a comment on the quality of reporting than the subject matter.
 
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