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    Thomas Woods & Kevin Gutzman question

    You said Madison's words only covered the 1st Amendment, yet trial by jury is covered by the 6th and 7th. This is Madison's words... Clearly Madison was trying to add protection to the States but the States rejected that. They didn't want the federal government meddling in their individual...
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    Thomas Woods & Kevin Gutzman question

    Duplicate post, please delete.
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    Thomas Woods & Kevin Gutzman question

    Coxe is arguing before the BOR was introduced. I agree with him, by the way, that no State should disarm their constituents. That being said, that quote does not show how the BOR's pertained to the States. He is simply arguing that no government should have that power. Of course, most states...
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    Thomas Woods & Kevin Gutzman question

    So you are saying only the 1st Amendment is a protection from the Federal Government, and I have provided quotes from Jefferson himself saying that the states can infringe upon free speech and protests, why can't Newtown, CT, make a law banning the idiots of Westboro Baptist Church from...
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    Thomas Woods & Kevin Gutzman question

    Trial by jury falls under the 1st Amendment now? When did that happen?
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    Thomas Woods & Kevin Gutzman question

    Ok, I've shown quotes, examples of congressional debate, unanimous supreme court rulings, direct quotes, etc. your turn. Find a single quote from a founder that talks about the Bill of Rights pertaining to the states. Just one.
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    Thomas Woods & Kevin Gutzman question

    In 1789, Rep. James Madison told the First Congress that a constitutional amendment was needed to guarantee that "No state shall violate the equal rights of conscience, or the freedom of the press, or trial by jury in criminal cases," but that amendment was defeated in the Senate and never...
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    Thomas Woods & Kevin Gutzman question

    From the Preamble of the Bill of Rights. Why would they propose amendments to limit themselves?
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    Thomas Woods & Kevin Gutzman question

    So you are telling me those two (Woods, Gutzman) highly accredited, close personal friends of Ron Paul, never read the anti-federalist papers, the federalist papers, the constitution (as some here seem to believe), or researched historical congressional hearings?
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    Thomas Woods & Kevin Gutzman question

    From the Gutzman article...
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    Thomas Woods & Kevin Gutzman question

    Sorry to dig this up from the grave, but I find it extremely important considering our current climate. This seems to be a hot button topic with us, but the truth is the truth. I'd actually prefer it, as originally understood. We might lose states like Il, NY, and Ct, but we'd have less...
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    Justice Scalia: The constitution is 'dead, dead, dead'

    This is the part I don't understand. If you are going by the strict, original Constitution, then the Bill of Rights would only limit federal laws. So a federal ban on assault weapons is unconstitutional, but heller v DC, and McDonald v Chicago would have been upheld. Since the BOR didn't bind...
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    Justice Scalia: The constitution is 'dead, dead, dead'

    I don't understand this. If you look at the Constitution, as originally written and before the Incorporation Doctrine, then we wouldn't have these "One-Size-Fits-All" federal laws. Sure, places like NJ would be free to restrict gun ownership (as long as they follow their State constitution) but...
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    SC Debate - FNC (1/16/12) 9pm ET - Official Thread

    Haha, entertaining so far!
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