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Why are the masses against us and who is the "enemy"?

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Has anyone realized that almost each person in this country is against personal freedom? How did this come to be? I think our revolution is quite disadvantaged over the first revolution because we don't have the support of the masses and we don't have a defined enemy all wearing red clothing.
 
i don't believe in "the masses." people just aren't that simple. social conditioning is a bitch, but i don't think it is everything. as for enemies, we don't really have any of those either.

edit: also, during the revolution the "revolutionaries" were in the minority. their "enemies" wore red coats,ours wear badges (sometimes).
 
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Has anyone realized that almost each person in this country is against personal freedom?

In my experience, that's not true at all. Most people don't involve themselves in politics whatsoever because they feel they have no way of making meaningful change. That's why I was so dissapointed in ads that the national campaign put out. They targeted "likely republican voters" instead of finding ways to grow their base. (and get people telling friends and family that they have an alternative, just as the base grew with Paul in this cycle on the net.)
 
True freedom is a scary thing to most people because its fruit might be sweet or it might be sour. Everybody wants the freedom to succeed but nobody wants the freedom to starve or not receive the medical care they need. Not to belabor the obvious, but given the choice, everyone would naturally rather be somewhat well-fed, healthy and rich than poor and starving and sick. And given the option of a safe and guaranteed outcome (socialized medicine, high minimum wage, welfare, et al), its actually surprising that more people don't trade away more of their freedoms in exchange for the politician's promise of a chicken in every pot.
 
Here's the problem: most people think they are free. They have no earthly idea how our freedoms are eroding on a daily basis.

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

That and the [deliberate?] brainwashing about the function of government, specifically the federal government. Just think about the bastardization of the political lexicon; our representatives, paid for by us, are now called leaders. That gives an air of superiority and so everything our Great Leaders do and say should not be questioned.
 
"We The People" vs "Them The GovernLess"

After decades of brainwashing via the media (newspapers, radio, schools, etc...) what is it we expect?

Exactly when did it become "We The People" vs "Them The GovernLess" ???

All of this reminds me of Black Sabbath - 'Mob Rules'.

Rooster: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5586403647523368615

Liberteebell, I absolutely love your signature!!!
 
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Who is the enemy??

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Duh.
 
Politicized, institutionalized, socialized, lobotomized, ignorant, apathetic, anesthetized, sleeping, complacent populaces, very often do and/or allow some very stupid and even idiotic counter productive things to take place.<IMHO>
 
Liberteebell, I absolutely love your signature!!!

Wish I could take credit for it! RockEnds, a poster here at RPF wrote it some time ago and I loved it so much, I asked if I could use it.
 
Has anyone realized that almost each person in this country is against personal freedom? How did this come to be? I think our revolution is quite disadvantaged over the first revolution because we don't have the support of the masses and we don't have a defined enemy all wearing red clothing.

This came to be, because of TV and Radio Dumbing down the American people.

The American people have become lazy and fat because of Americas prosperity.
Todays Generation has absolutely no clue about hardship, starvation, tyranny, mass arrest, mass executions.

When these things start to happen, (economy meltdown), the giant will awaken.
But millions will be lost.
 
Politicized, institutionalized, socialized, lobotomized, ignorant, apathetic, anesthetized, sleeping, complacent populaces, very often do and/or allow some very stupid and even idiotic counter productive things to take place.<IMHO>

I had to laugh at that even though it is sooo true
 
True freedom is a scary thing to most people because its fruit might be sweet or it might be sour. Everybody wants the freedom to succeed but nobody wants the freedom to starve or not receive the medical care they need. Not to belabor the obvious, but given the choice, everyone would naturally rather be somewhat well-fed, healthy and rich than poor and starving and sick. And given the option of a safe and guaranteed outcome (socialized medicine, high minimum wage, welfare, et al), its actually surprising that more people don't trade away more of their freedoms in exchange for the politician's promise of a chicken in every pot.

Most people think that the colonists all spontaneously rose up and demanded their freedom from the British. Most didn't. They prefered the status quo, even though they had issues with it.

Small bands of revolutionaries such as the Sons of Liberty pressed the issue, and it wasn't until the bullets started flying that the "masses" joined the fight.
 
Most people think that the colonists all spontaneously rose up and demanded their freedom from the British. Most didn't. They prefered the status quo, even though they had issues with it.

Small bands of revolutionaries such as the Sons of Liberty pressed the issue, and it wasn't until the bullets started flying that the "masses" joined the fight.

Even then it was still a minority, IIRC
 
Here's the problem: most people think they are free. They have no earthly idea how our freedoms are eroding on a daily basis.



That and the [deliberate?] brainwashing about the function of government, specifically the federal government. Just think about the bastardization of the political lexicon; our representatives, paid for by us, are now called leaders. That gives an air of superiority and so everything our Great Leaders do and say should not be questioned.

I've heard that quote being used alot when someone is against Ron Paul. Strange!
 
The New World Order. President Woodrow Wilson said, "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world, no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.
 
Has anyone realized that almost each person in this country is against personal freedom? How did this come to be? I think our revolution is quite disadvantaged over the first revolution because we don't have the support of the masses and we don't have a defined enemy all wearing red clothing.

However, it must be duly noted that some of the..shall we say...elderly ladies in the GOP have taken to wearing red hats.
 
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