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Whitetrashmart (walmart) knows no limits it would seem

If that guy didn't want a big store to buy the property next door to him, well he should have bought it first. He has no right to dictate what the rightful owner of that land does on it.

Walmart is one of the greatest corporate friends there are for us who love free markets. They are also one of the greatest friends of the poor in our country, providing goods inexpensively and numerous jobs. They're non-union, which is outstanding. And liberals hate them, which is the best part of all.
 
If that guy didn't want a big store to buy the property next door to him, well he should have bought it first. He has no right to dictate what the rightful owner of that land does on it.

Walmart is one of the greatest corporate friends there are for us who love free markets. They are also one of the greatest friends of the poor in our country, providing goods inexpensively and numerous jobs. They're non-union, which is outstanding. And liberals hate them, which is the best part of all.

Well im not so sure about that - half the crapola thats sold in Walmart is made in China and I think that and it supplies Americans with products form manufacturers taht used to be here......I am not sure youre argument holds up.

Also many of their foods are produced by the giant agribusinesses which has dtesroyed our farmers.....

Its a kin to Hedge funds going in a pumping and dumping companies, laying off teh work force and not creating ANY value - just raiding and stripping and taking huge profits for a very few. They do they same by sourcing overseas. Centralizing welath is not what PAul is about - he is in to decentralization! Its a bad thing when our manuf and agriculture is sourced off shore for so many reasons.......

I am not saying Walmart is all eveil but it is not a good example for free mkt capitalism youre saying it is. Its buying in to a system that is parasitical and does not nuture real wealth in this country but kinda drains it.......
 
If that guy didn't want a big store to buy the property next door to him, well he should have bought it first. He has no right to dictate what the rightful owner of that land does on it.
Maybe you should learn a little something about how property rights actually work. By right of first appropriation, it is Walmart who has no right here, not that man, because he established his property right first. Walmart is a late-comer, and has NO RIGHT to damage his pre-existing property. His claim is superior to Walmart's claim. If Walmart can't build a store there without doing damage to or polluting his property, and that includes noise pollution, then Walmart simply has no right to build a store there.

Walmart is one of the greatest corporate friends there are for us who love free markets.
Except when they violate the property rights of others, as they're doing in this instance.


He should sue the pants off of them for cracking his home's foundation, and file criminal charges for threatening his life with explosives.
 
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Put my in the "I love Wal-Mart" camp. I don't usually shop there but I can tell you that my husband had a business deal he was working on.

First, you have to know that in the grocery stores, all the shelf positions are bought and paid for. If you want a store to carry your item, you need to pay them a shelf fee of $10,000.00 or more. - maybe $100,000 for the bigger chains. That's a tough nut for a start up.

Wal-Mart is the only company that doesn't do that. The deal is that if they like the product, they will buy it. They liked our product, and they told us how it should be packaged and what it should be priced at to get their customers to buy it.

The deal didn't work out, but that wasn't Wal-Mart's fault. If it wasn't for them, it wouldn't have had any chance at all.

Another thing - their buyers are known as the most honest and ethical buyers in the business. They're forbidden from accepting even token gifts, and all their dealings with vendors are videotaped.

Last - my friend's bought a small house in a so-so part of town. It was next to an oil changing shop. Wal-Mart decided to build there. Their first offer on my friend's house was so generous that she managed to make a 50% down payment on a much nicer house even after taxes.

I try to avoid stuff that is made in China, but it's everywhere, not just Wal-Mart.
 
If that guy didn't want a big store to buy the property next door to him, well he should have bought it first. He has no right to dictate what the rightful owner of that land does on it.

Walmart is one of the greatest corporate friends there are for us who love free markets. They are also one of the greatest friends of the poor in our country, providing goods inexpensively and numerous jobs. They're non-union, which is outstanding. And liberals hate them, which is the best part of all.

But they have to pay for any damage done to another's property. He can stay there for as long as he wants. It's his property after all. You are correct about buying the property next door, but Walmart should be held accountable for the damage done. Wal-mart is not so rosey red as you make the business out to be. They have used eminent domain laws in the past to grab up property.
 
I need to know more about the land. If it was zoned commercial.then the guy should have known there was a chance this was coming.
 
I need to know more about the land. If it was zoned commercial.then the guy should have known there was a chance this was coming.
So? Since when do government dictates override individual rights? He has every right to be there. It's his property. Walmart has no right to force him out, to threaten him or his property, to injure him or damage his property, or to pollute his property.
 
Wal-Mart is one of the greatest corporate friends there are for us who love free markets.

Wal-Mart is the main buyer from the US companies who have moved American manufacturing jobs overseas to utilize slave labor. I don't think the "free markets" that Ron Paul is talking about includes slave labor

They are also one of the greatest friends of the poor in our country, providing goods inexpensively and numerous jobs.

That is a sick joke. They create the poor by supporting the off shoring of US manufacturing jobs which erodes the US middleclass. What a great free market: filled with poor unemployed skilled workers and overqualified and underpaid workers employed at MacDonald’s and Wal-Mart who are all so grateful to possess a pile of cheap goods produced by slaves.
 
So? Since when do government dictates override individual rights? He has every right to be there. It's his property. Walmart has no right to force him out, to threaten him or his property, to injure him or damage his property, or to pollute his property.

I didn't hear that Wal-Mart was trying to force him out. I was under the impression that he's just going to be living next to a Wal-Mart.

I certainly think that Wal-Mart should pay for the foundation damage.

I don't know if it's still there, but In St Petesburg, quite a few years ago, one of the grocery chains tried to buy out some houses to build a parking lot for their new store. One guy decided he was going to hold about for more money than the store was willing to pay, so there was a guy's house in the middle of a Publix parking lot.
 
They create the poor by supporting the off shoring of US manufacturing jobs which erodes the US middleclass. What a great free market: filled with poor unemployed skilled workers and overqualified and underpaid workers employed at MacDonald’s and Wal-Mart who are all so grateful to possess a pile of cheap goods produced by slaves.

I think the unfettered illegal immigration has done far more harm to Middle Class AMerica than Wal-Mart.
 
One guy decided he was going to hold about for more money than the store was willing to pay, so there was a guy's house in the middle of a Publix parking lot.

ROFL .. Are there any photos of that floating around on the net? That is a must see :O
 
Wal-Mart is the main buyer from the US companies who have moved American manufacturing jobs overseas to utilize slave labor. I don't think the "free markets" that Ron Paul is talking about includes slave labor
They don't utilize slave labor, they utilize cheap labor in developing countries. There's a big difference.

That is a sick joke. They create the poor by supporting the off shoring of US manufacturing jobs which erodes the US middleclass.
Your understanding of economics is virtually nil. You need to learn about the concept of comparative advantage. Do you think it's an efficient use of, say, Yao Ming's time to paint houses? He's certainly got the height to do so more efficiently than most house painters. His time however is better spent in other pursuits, like playing basketball. The average house painter may not be able to do the job as efficiently as he could, but he's still better off hiring someone else to paint his house, so he can spend his time doing things that no house painter could do. It's the same with American and overseas workers. Is American industry more efficient than third world sweatshops? Certainly. Is that the best way to utilize the American labor force? Absolutely not. Manufacturing jobs have moved overseas because it's cheaper to get the work done there, and have Americans do other things. American workers can now use their time more efficiently, in more productive jobs. This is called progress.

What a great free market: filled with poor unemployed skilled workers and overqualified and underpaid workers employed at MacDonald’s and Wal-Mart who are all so grateful to possess a pile of cheap goods produced by slaves.
In what warped version of the world do you live where any of that is the case?
 
I think the unfettered illegal immigration has done far more harm to Middle Class AMerica than Wal-Mart.

You mean the illegal immigration of unskilled labor from south of the border? You may be right if you just single out Wal-mart. I was referring to the offshoring of manufacturing jobs which traditionally supported the middleclass. I think offshoring of manufacturing jobs overseas has had more effect on the American middleclass than illegal unskilled labor from south of the border.

“Offshoring and free market ideology are turning the US into a Third World country. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, one-quarter of all new US jobs created between June 2006 and June 2007 were for waitresses and bartenders. Almost all of the net new US jobs in the 21st century have been in domestic services.” Paul Craig Roberts
 
Not that hard to understand. We get cheap products from China, good. China gets to build its industrial base and move up in economic status, good. Both parties benefit from the transaction. That is the free market at work. No one is entitled to a job that pays x. In a free market you adapt to the change and learn a new skill.
 
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“Offshoring and free market ideology are turning the US into a Third World country. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, one-quarter of all new US jobs created between June 2006 and June 2007 were for waitresses and bartenders. Almost all of the net new US jobs in the 21st century have been in domestic services.” Paul Craig Roberts
How clever. He could be the next Michael Moore. "Domestic services" is a rather broad term, which covers a hell of a lot more than waitressing and bartending.
 
One fourth of all the jobs created from June 2006 to June 2007 consist of waitresses and bartenders.

Of the total 1.6 million net private sector jobs created from June 2006 to June 2007:

Leisure and hospitality account for 30%.

Education and health services accounted for 35%
100,000 jobs in educational services
456,000 jobs are in health care and social assistance (Principally Ambulatory health care services and hospital support staff)

Finance and Insurance
93,000 jobs (1/4 real estate ½ insurance)

Transportation and Warehousing
65,000 jobs

Wholesale and Retail Trade
185,000

Architectural and Engineering
51,000 jobs
 
One fourth of all the jobs created from June 2006 to June 2007 consist of waitresses and bartenders.

Of the total 1.6 million net private sector jobs created from June 2006 to June 2007:

Leisure and hospitality account for 30%.

Education and health services accounted for 35%
100,000 jobs in educational services
456,000 jobs are in health care and social assistance (Principally Ambulatory health care services and hospital support staff)

Finance and Insurance
93,000 jobs (1/4 real estate ½ insurance)

Transportation and Warehousing
65,000 jobs

Wholesale and Retail Trade
185,000

Architectural and Engineering
51,000 jobs

Jobs don't pop up out of no where. If there are more jobs in the service industry than it's resonable to deduce that there is a growing demand. No poor country would have a huge sector of the economy dedicated to hospitality.
 
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