Warrior_of_Freedom
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Sorry, but I've been too busy trying to find a job to worry about all the political stuff happening, there's just too much for one mind to handle, can anyone explain to me in 3 sentences?
What does the cap and trade legislation mean?
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tangent4ronpaul
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Yeah - I think I can do that in one sentence...
BEND OVER AND SPREAD UM!
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BEND OVER AND SPREAD UM!
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It means you will have an even harder time finding a job once it is in effect.
We need to kill this PoS in the Senate, and we need to make sure that any contested Congressman that voted for this PoS is out next year.
Those 8 GOP that crossed party lines to support it need to be run out of town on a rail.
We need to kill this PoS in the Senate, and we need to make sure that any contested Congressman that voted for this PoS is out next year.
Those 8 GOP that crossed party lines to support it need to be run out of town on a rail.
LiveFree79
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Al Gore is the biggest, slimiest, POS of the highest order. I can't stand that f'ing guy! He should have died in Vietnam. Our country would be better off!
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Cap'n as in to shoot down and kill and trade as to shoot down and kill trade.
Cap'n + Trade = Kill Trade....
Cap'n + Trade = Kill Trade....
No. The tax increases will come in the form of higher gas and other energy bills. Everybody already hates those industries and will start screaming for congress to do something about those gouging bastards.
It was pretty slick move. Same move as the HMO act of the sevenities. The medical industries are now taking the hit for the high cost of health care so we have to pass national healthcare now!
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qft...
Warrior_of_Freedom
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ohh, it's that thing that for example, electricity companies need to buy a government permit to exceed x amount of emissions?
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The interesting thing in al of this is the supposed intent of reducing carbon emissions in the United States.
1.) What temperature is the target temperature?
2.) What exceptions are made for carbon not produced in the USA that are measured in the USA?
3.) Why no carbon free nuclear energy?
4.) If the planet slips into another cooling trend will we give credits to carbon producers?
And the Earth has been much cooler and much, much warmer, so how do we control that which is naturally occurring on this dynamic planet?
Who controls the planet core and the heat energy radiating into the environment, heat that is released slowly and dynamically over time?
http://www.scotese.com/climate.htm
1.) What temperature is the target temperature?
2.) What exceptions are made for carbon not produced in the USA that are measured in the USA?
3.) Why no carbon free nuclear energy?
4.) If the planet slips into another cooling trend will we give credits to carbon producers?
And the Earth has been much cooler and much, much warmer, so how do we control that which is naturally occurring on this dynamic planet?
Who controls the planet core and the heat energy radiating into the environment, heat that is released slowly and dynamically over time?
http://www.scotese.com/climate.htm
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Europe has already had serious problems that you might not of heard about.
http://newsbusters.org/node/12378
http://newsbusters.org/node/12378
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Such good questions.
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Yet another tyrannical power and tax grab passed late on a Friday night, with only a few token hours of debate on a 1500 page bill no one has read. Hundreds of pages of provisions added at the very last minute in this and a sister bill, the contents of which will not be released to the public. This is the nexus connecting legislative coverup to the other kinds of cover-up. If we let the state get away through the back door with torture coverups, false flags, lies used to start wars, etc., how will we stop them when they cover up their theft of the economy and constitution through the front door?
At a time where there is little or no transparency in government, and extensively documented government influence over the media, the most reasonable default stance to take (in general) is to presume government/elite orchestration of events and reporting, until proven otherwise. That this is passing when everybody else is talking about dead celebrities is not an accident. The media will not cover our dead and murdered republic.
At a time where there is little or no transparency in government, and extensively documented government influence over the media, the most reasonable default stance to take (in general) is to presume government/elite orchestration of events and reporting, until proven otherwise. That this is passing when everybody else is talking about dead celebrities is not an accident. The media will not cover our dead and murdered republic.
These points are all very good points, and very valid.
But, not the worst of it. This bill is just a gate way bill for more government control.
Think about it. This bill is about carbon monoxide out put.
What comes out of your nose when you exhale?
What comes out of the ground when you till the soil? (For the non farmers, it's co2)
Cows produce co2
Cars produce co2
The place you work produces Co2, even if you do not actually produce anything, your still using electricity, witch produces C02 during the making of it.
Can you see how this allows the feds. to get their fingers into every aspect of your life?
To me the worst part is, the bill offers no solution to the supposed reason it was introduced in the first place. This, to me is just another tax, just to be taxing us. This would fall under "taxation without representation"
Junk science, is not representation!
Charlie
But, not the worst of it. This bill is just a gate way bill for more government control.
Think about it. This bill is about carbon monoxide out put.
What comes out of your nose when you exhale?
What comes out of the ground when you till the soil? (For the non farmers, it's co2)
Cows produce co2
Cars produce co2
The place you work produces Co2, even if you do not actually produce anything, your still using electricity, witch produces C02 during the making of it.
Can you see how this allows the feds. to get their fingers into every aspect of your life?
To me the worst part is, the bill offers no solution to the supposed reason it was introduced in the first place. This, to me is just another tax, just to be taxing us. This would fall under "taxation without representation"
Junk science, is not representation!
Charlie
