Matt Kibbe is joined by Matt Ridley, author of “Viral: The Search for the Origin of COVID-19,” to discuss the constantly shifting media narrative surrounding the coronavirus pandemic, including the once taboo “lab leak hypothesis.” Ridley runs down the evidence for the hypothesis, including why the original story about Chinese wet markets makes no sense, and addresses the controversy about gain of function research. He also lays out the costs—in terms of reputation, harassment, and bullying—that he and his co-author have paid for being willing to contradict the scientific and medical establishment on this issue.
