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We should do something for Darfur.

EvilTwinkie

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Many people who are not on board with us yet thought Paul gave an "insensitive" answer to the Darfur issue.

I know Ron Paul needs all the cash he can get, but perhaps we can organize a Ron Paul Lead by example Drive and do something for Darfur in his name.

Perhaps our international Paulites might be able to help with this.
 
I would be up for something like this! I think it would be great!!
 
I'm sorry... and maybe this is a philosophical difference that just
won't jive...

But we need to leave Darfur the hell alone. Please, educate your
friends, families, and neighbors on the history of the United States'
and other Western nations' interference/exploitation in that country
and every country surrounding it.

Remember Duncan Hunter's answer to the question last night...

he was speaking to you, whether you heard it or not.

Please, if you have the opportunity watch Louis Farrakahn's 2002 NOI address
that was aired on C-SPAN.
 
Many people who are not on board with us yet thought Paul gave an "insensitive" answer to the Darfur issue.

I know Ron Paul needs all the cash he can get, but perhaps we can organize a Ron Paul Lead by example Drive and do something for Darfur in his name.

Perhaps our international Paulites might be able to help with this.

That would be a good thing... believe it or not we did this sort of thing for the JAPANESE before WWII.... Even little schoolkids donated their lunch money...

My $5 will go further when it doesnt have to go thru the political machine and get eaten up with bullshit expenses
 
Be wary. Whenever you tell people to actually take some personally accountability for their pet causes instead of relying on the government, it'll turn into "you support genocide."
 
I'm sorry... and maybe this is a philosophical difference that just
won't jive...

But we need to leave Darfur the hell alone. Please, educate your
friends, families, and neighbors on the history of the United States'
and other Western nations' interference/exploitation in that country
and every country surrounding it.

Remember Duncan Hunter's answer to the question last night...

he was speaking to you, whether you heard it or not.

Please, if you have the opportunity watch Louis Farrakahn's 2002 NOI address
that was aired on C-SPAN.


So don't be involved! I will not pull your leg... :)
 
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2006/tst050106.htm

Ron Paul
True Foreign Aid
May 1, 2006

A recent Hudson Institute study found that, last year, American citizens voluntarily contributed three times more to help people overseas than did the United States government. This should not surprise us at all, as Americans are generous to those in need, whether here or abroad. There are so many moral, religious, and human reasons to help our fellow men and women in need. It is only when government gets in the way and tries to crowd out private charity that problems arise.

There are good reasons why the US Constitution does not allow our government to send taxpayer money overseas as foreign aid. One of the best is that coerced “charity” is not charity at all, but rather it is theft. If someone picks your pocket and donates the money to a good cause it does not negate the original act of theft.

There are also practical reasons to oppose governmental foreign aid. Though it may be given with the best intentions, government agencies simply cannot do the kind of job that private charities do in actually helping people in need. Government-to-government assistance seldom helps those really in need. First, because it comes from governments it usually has political strings attached to it, and as such is really a cover for political interventionism. Take our own National Endowment for Democracy for example. The “aid” money it spends is usually spent trying to manipulate elections overseas so that a favored foreign political party wins “democratic” elections. This does no favor to citizens of foreign countries, who vote in the hope that they may choose their own leaders without outside interference.

Likewise with the so-called Millennium Challenge Account, which sends US aid to countries that meet US-determined economic reform criteria. The fact is, countries that enact solid economic policies will attract many times the amount of private foreign investment on international capital markets than they receive through the Millennium Challenge program.

Another problem is that when a government gives aid to another government there are so many layers of middlemen involved that by the time the actual aid trickles down to those in need it is a small fraction of the original amount given. Not to mention that much of this aid finds its way into the pockets of corrupt foreign leaders.

Private assistance organizations, on the other hand, are more subject to market forces and thus much more effective. When Americans feel motivated to part with their hard-earned money to help someone overseas, they want to make sure it goes only to the most effective charities. Bad news travels fast, and private charities are unlikely to send their resources where they are likely to be wasted because their contributions would soon dry up. We all recall what happened several years ago when it was revealed that the top management of a major charity organization was paid extremely high salaries: people stopped sending money. The problem corrected itself.

Sadly, this does not happen when government aid is mismanaged. More often than not, the very government agencies that mismanaged the assistance in the first place come back to Congress for a budget increase to solve the problem they created.

So we should be happy to hear that Americans are willing to give so much to help those less fortunate in foreign lands. And we should think hard about all the good we could do both at home and abroad if our government did not take so much from us for its ineffective and wasteful foreign aid priorities. True charity is never coerced.
 
Here's a real quick brief... there are far better sources out there, but this
really is an important issue and i know most of you won't look into it unless
it is spoonfed (b/c you care so F*n much right?).

Errantry
 
What did he say?


hit PBS.org and get it from the horse's mouth.

wake up folks, don't have the wool pulled over your eyes again... please.

this little bit of PR ain't worth the inevitable deal w/ the devil....
 
We need to find a way to break the myth that if the government doesnt do it, it doesnt happen. Quiet the people who object to Paul because it would mean 'no foreign aid.' Darfur is a big issue.

Thats why i suggested the idea.
 
Maybe we should donate like the Katrina

fund that raised 125 million and still has 119 million in it with a 250k a year administrator. Nothing can be done, it has to be done locally or by neighboring countries. Anything else is just pissing money and resources down the drain. If you feel so bad adopt a child from there.
 
Publicity is good EvilTwinkie... but I take it very seriously that
lives are in the balance and public opinnion is being swayed
toward war with and colonization of yet another country.

it's the don't feed the trolls thing.

We've started wars there, so we started some more wars,
so now to stop the wars we've got to start another war...
Your charity only ensures control over the supply chain, that's it.

to stop the GENOCIDE... why is that term so exclusive?
why not stop the genocide in palestine, or the genocide
in Iraq? huh? silly semantics.

Seriously though... begging.... please please please
don't feed this troll.
 
Nevermind. Looks like I didnt know much about darfur.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program: " When will the thermometer POP?"

:p
 
i'm sorry man... for real though...

if you really want to do some charity
for the people of darfur, how about
we engineer an EDUCATION DRIVE????

I'll be happy to help out w/ that, we
gather info, make and distribute materials...
 
Nevermind. Looks like I didnt know much about darfur.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program: " When will the thermometer POP?"

:p

Don't let the opinion of one or two change your mind. If you get something going on this, just know that I will help in whatever way I can.
 
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2006/tst050106.htm



Private assistance organizations, on the other hand, are more subject to market forces and thus much more effective. When Americans feel motivated to part with their hard-earned money to help someone overseas, they want to make sure it goes only to the most effective charities. Bad news travels fast, and private charities are unlikely to send their resources where they are likely to be wasted because their contributions would soon dry up. We all recall what happened several years ago when it was revealed that the top management of a major charity organization was paid extremely high salaries: people stopped sending money. The problem corrected itself.

Sorry Ron, i've got nothing but love... but in this case i'm calling b.s.

Now I gotta go scrounge up my data... I'll see you in hot topics.
 
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