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Ugh, just got a response back from a letter I mailed to Iowa

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Here's the emailed response that I just received:

"I would first like to commend you on your support of politics and the very soon up coming presidential election. I have noticed in the letter I received I was listed as having no party affiliation. To be completely honest, when I registered I could not have cared less about the Democratic, Republican, or Independent parties. However, after maturing and taking on more responsibility I have started to from opinions about such stated parties. After the last 7 years of having a Republican president, I can say I am completely and utterly disgusted with the republican party. There have been far too many mistakes and misleading information generated through this administration. I feel that not enough was done in retaliation to 9/11 and after the hunt in Afghanistan started to bog down, attention had to be quickly diverted to dictator who "possessed" weapons mass destruction. I find it very ironic that a man who has investments and interests in the oil industry was not at all swayed by the oil rich wells that make up Iraq. I also have a hard time believing that another Texas Republican will not share most, if not all of same values as the current president. I would also like to rebut a few of your statements concerning Dr. Ron Paul.

1. In Congress, Dr. Ron Paul has never voted to raise taxes.
-That's great, has he ever voted to ease taxes on the lower and middle classes?

2. He served 5 years in the Military as a flight surgeon.
-I love and support our fighting Military men and women along with their families, but why does that make him any better than the next candidate who didn't sever in the Military?

3. He is consistently named the "Taxpayer's Best Friend"
-No political candidate will ever be a taxpayer's friend, some where in fine print there is an exception.

4. He is truly an honest politician.
-No one on this earth is a Saint, I don't believe there will ever be a "truly honest" politician, or person for that matter.


Needless to say, I will be voting for John Edwards of the Democratic party. I appreciate his values and ideals, he has what it takes to better this country.


Regards,
Matthew

P.S. If you are campaigning for political support of a candidate, it's better to start off by spelling the name of the person you are addressing, correctly."
 
Can't win 'em all. Don't need to win more than 1 in 50.

You might email him back and cite the Tax Free Tips Act, though. Couldn't hurt.
 
For some reason, I think just getting a response to my letters would feel like a victory - whatever the response was. To be discussing politics in any context with a complete stranger from across the country seems like a victory for the American people.
 
This is not all bad! Use this as an opportunity to engage and educate. There is a reason this person reached out to you. Take the opportunity.
 
This is why I directed people to google the same videos that turned me onto Ron Paul:


Google: Ron Paul Stop Dreaming
Google: Ron Paul Don't Tread
Google: Ron Paul New Hope

When people see these videos, they don't instantly think of arguments to use against Dr. Paul. They think, "I need to learn more."
 
If you have his email, send him some of aravoth's videos. I've converted a lot of people that way - the videos cover a lot of issues and are very comprehensive.
 
John Edwards of the Democratic party. I appreciate his values and ideals, he has what it takes to better this country.

This is such a canned statement that it has lost all meaning. I would never take anyway seriously who says the "he has what it takes" line without a reason why.

Perhaps he appreciates his hypocrisy? 400$ haircuts, his own hedge fund, and yet he still pretends he's the poor man's savior.
 
P.S. If you are campaigning for political support of a candidate, it's better to start off by spelling the name of the person you are addressing, correctly."

He's taken by arguably the most shallow, shape-shifting Dem of them all, and he's a snot to boot. So don't feel bad - some people are impossible to reach. Thanks for your letter-writing efforts. :)
 
Ask him how many tiems Edwards voted to ease taxes... haha hes already made up his mind, hes not being rational. I say that not becuase he is supporting someone else but because hes lumping all rebulicans into the same group, not taking people on their personal credientials and sights issues that Edwards is not even on his side of the camp with!

No biggy. Good work on letter writing!
 
This is actually a good opportunity. All of her points are just skepticism, and I'm sure she could be won over if you replied with a detailed explanation of Ron Paul's plans and views. How he's more anti-Iraq War than any (save maybe Kucinich) Democrat, how he wants to, and can legitimately abolish the income tax (reference the fact that revenue would only be at 2000 levels), and that he wants to reduce U.S. intervention overseas in general, saving the tax payers about $500 billion/year.
 
Here's the emailed response that I just received:

"I would first like to commend you on your support of politics and the very soon up coming presidential election. I have noticed in the letter I received I was listed as having no party affiliation. To be completely honest, when I registered I could not have cared less about the Democratic, Republican, or Independent parties. However, after maturing and taking on more responsibility I have started to from opinions about such stated parties. After the last 7 years of having a Republican president, I can say I am completely and utterly disgusted with the republican party. There have been far too many mistakes and misleading information generated through this administration. I feel that not enough was done in retaliation to 9/11 and after the hunt in Afghanistan started to bog down, attention had to be quickly diverted to dictator who "possessed" weapons mass destruction. I find it very ironic that a man who has investments and interests in the oil industry was not at all swayed by the oil rich wells that make up Iraq. I also have a hard time believing that another Texas Republican will not share most, if not all of same values as the current president. I would also like to rebut a few of your statements concerning Dr. Ron Paul.

1. In Congress, Dr. Ron Paul has never voted to raise taxes.
-That's great, has he ever voted to ease taxes on the lower and middle classes?

2. He served 5 years in the Military as a flight surgeon.
-I love and support our fighting Military men and women along with their families, but why does that make him any better than the next candidate who didn't sever in the Military?

3. He is consistently named the "Taxpayer's Best Friend"
-No political candidate will ever be a taxpayer's friend, some where in fine print there is an exception.

4. He is truly an honest politician.
-No one on this earth is a Saint, I don't believe there will ever be a "truly honest" politician, or person for that matter.


Needless to say, I will be voting for John Edwards of the Democratic party. I appreciate his values and ideals, he has what it takes to better this country.


Regards,
Matthew

P.S. If you are campaigning for political support of a candidate, it's better to start off by spelling the name of the person you are addressing, correctly."

Well if this man would actually look into RP, he would agree with him on the issues.

However, I am willing to bet that even IF you showed him that, he would engage in double think and still vote for Edwards just to spite you.
 
It's cool you got a response back. I would write him back just once in an effort to resolve his problems with Paul, DO NOT bash Edwards. If you don't win him over it's no big deal because he's going to caucus for a democrat.
 
If I were you, I'd reply and politely engage with facts about Ron's foreign policy, which seems in line with the guy's thoughts on Bin Laden and Iraq. And send youtube videos. He might very well thank you for doing what old media failed to do.

Slick Ron Paul converting email example of "Winning Friends and Influencing People":

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=59865
 
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Here's the emailed response that I just received:

"I would first like to commend you on your support of politics and the very soon up coming presidential election. I have noticed in the letter I received I was listed as having no party affiliation. To be completely honest, when I registered I could not have cared less about the Democratic, Republican, or Independent parties. However, after maturing and taking on more responsibility I have started to from opinions about such stated parties. After the last 7 years of having a Republican president, I can say I am completely and utterly disgusted with the republican party. There have been far too many mistakes and misleading information generated through this administration. I feel that not enough was done in retaliation to 9/11 and after the hunt in Afghanistan started to bog down, attention had to be quickly diverted to dictator who "possessed" weapons mass destruction. I find it very ironic that a man who has investments and interests in the oil industry was not at all swayed by the oil rich wells that make up Iraq. I also have a hard time believing that another Texas Republican will not share most, if not all of same values as the current president. I would also like to rebut a few of your statements concerning Dr. Ron Paul.

1. In Congress, Dr. Ron Paul has never voted to raise taxes.
-That's great, has he ever voted to ease taxes on the lower and middle classes?

2. He served 5 years in the Military as a flight surgeon.
-I love and support our fighting Military men and women along with their families, but why does that make him any better than the next candidate who didn't sever in the Military?

3. He is consistently named the "Taxpayer's Best Friend"
-No political candidate will ever be a taxpayer's friend, some where in fine print there is an exception.

4. He is truly an honest politician.
-No one on this earth is a Saint, I don't believe there will ever be a "truly honest" politician, or person for that matter.


Needless to say, I will be voting for John Edwards of the Democratic party. I appreciate his values and ideals, he has what it takes to better this country.


Regards,
Matthew

P.S. If you are campaigning for political support of a candidate, it's better to start off by spelling the name of the person you are addressing, correctly."

This is useful information to improve our technique. This guy is intelligent enough and has thought about politics enough to need more detail about our candidate than can be provided in single sentences on his policy stances.

Obviously the rub is that you would have to motivate the guy to check the web or mail / hand him the information. But given this guy's overt disgust with the republican party and the reputation that Bush has given to politicians from Texas, I doubt he'd even bother taking the time to check it out. And, he's already made up his mind to go Edwards.

No love lost, Edwards will bring more war and big government. Sad, but, move on. Just take it as feedback - the name problem didn't help him remain objective either.
 
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