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Trump 2.0: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

Matt Collins

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Trump's first few hours...





THE GOOD:



  • merit based governmental hiring
  • ending DEI and gender-confusion nonsense
  • DOGE
  • offshore drilling
  • Alaska drilling
  • pausing foreign aid
  • securing the border*
  • withdrawing from the WHO
  • pardoning/commuting J6 participants
  • withdrawing from the Paris climate nonsense
  • federal hiring freeze
  • ending federal censorship
  • repealing prior Executive Orders
  • pushing costs/inflation down
  • ending the weaponization of the DOJ and Intel communities



THE BAD:



  • *making the border situation an "emergency"
  • militarizing the border
  • declaring an energy "emergency"
  • enacting tariffs
  • designating the cartels as "terrorists"
  • Ross Ulbricht hasn't been freed yet
 
Trump's first few hours...





THE GOOD:



  • merit based governmental hiring
  • ending DEI and gender-confusion nonsense
  • DOGE
  • offshore drilling
  • Alaska drilling
  • pausing foreign aid
  • securing the border*
  • withdrawing from the WHO
  • pardoning/commuting J6 participants
  • withdrawing from the Paris climate nonsense
  • federal hiring freeze
  • ending federal censorship
  • repealing prior Executive Orders
  • pushing costs/inflation down
  • ending the weaponization of the DOJ and Intel communities



THE BAD:



  • *making the border situation an "emergency"
  • militarizing the border
  • declaring an energy "emergency"
  • enacting tariffs
  • designating the cartels as "terrorists"
  • Ross Ulbricht hasn't been freed yet

Ross will be released tomorrow.
 
I will say, the EO for "returning to in-person work" is dumb.

Even before Covid, our state-level government offices had some remote work. It makes sense for I.T. people. The machines typically aren't in the building anyway. This is even more true today in the cloud environment.

This is Elon Musk's influence.

Here was the main dilemma that really was the issue for government. "Wait, if all these cubicle monkeys go home, what about all these office space leases?" Remote work, where it can be done, saves money. Grifters who make money of government bureaucrats don't like it.

But if you read the order, it actually says departments can make exemptions. I assure you they will.

On the flip side, this may be a strategy to help trim-down the workforce, as many I.T./call center types, will simply move to private or state-level. If this is the strategy, I can see the logic. Another way to force fed level attrition.

But remote work, in general, is a done deal. No one in the industries that it works for wants to transition back.
 
Trump's first few hours...





THE GOOD:



  • merit based governmental hiring
  • ending DEI and gender-confusion nonsense
  • DOGE
  • offshore drilling
  • Alaska drilling
  • pausing foreign aid
  • securing the border*
  • withdrawing from the WHO
  • pardoning/commuting J6 participants
  • withdrawing from the Paris climate nonsense
  • federal hiring freeze
  • ending federal censorship
  • repealing prior Executive Orders
  • pushing costs/inflation down
  • ending the weaponization of the DOJ and Intel communities



THE BAD:



  • *making the border situation an "emergency"
  • militarizing the border
  • declaring an energy "emergency"
  • enacting tariffs
  • designating the cartels as "terrorists"
  • Ross Ulbricht hasn't been freed yet

THE ALSO GOOD:



  • *making the border situation an "emergency"
  • militarizing the border
  • declaring an energy "emergency"
  • enacting tariffs
  • designating the cartels as "terrorists"
 
But remote work, in general, is a done deal. No one in the industries that it works for wants to transition back.

Covid is over. Of course nobody wants to transition back because they can be more lazy and unproductive at home. Anybody who is willing tell the truth, the fact is workers are less productive at home. Do you want your taxes paying for lazy workers?
 
Covid is over. Of course nobody wants to transition back because they can be more lazy and unproductive at home. Anybody who is willing tell the truth, the fact is workers are less productive at home. Do you want your taxes paying for lazy workers?

I'll tell the truth. I didn't want to be sent home. I missed the face-to-face interactions and feedback I'd get from it. I could motivate my employees much easier, too. We were a team who had fun and got a lot of good work done.

5 years in and I've gotten way too used to it. I do about 5 or 6 hours of real "work" per week. If there's a remote meeting I need to attend, I'll listen to it in the background while I'm monkeying around on RPF. I was once the most productive person at work, but now I do just enough to keep things moving. If I don't have any meetings for a few hours, I'll go ice fishing or take my dog for a walk or work in my shop or whatever else I can get into. I have my phone alerts in case something pops up. So yeah, I can see why lazy people would love this. At least in my work life, I'm now one of them. But there's no way anyone can convince me this is beneficial.

Good on Trump for switching this back!
 
I will say, the EO for "returning to in-person work" is dumb.

Even before Covid, our state-level government offices had some remote work. It makes sense for I.T. people. The machines typically aren't in the building anyway. This is even more true today in the cloud environment.

This is Elon Musk's influence.

Here was the main dilemma that really was the issue for government. "Wait, if all these cubicle monkeys go home, what about all these office space leases?" Remote work, where it can be done, saves money. Grifters who make money of government bureaucrats don't like it.

But if you read the order, it actually says departments can make exemptions. I assure you they will.

On the flip side, this may be a strategy to help trim-down the workforce, as many I.T./call center types, will simply move to private or state-level. If this is the strategy, I can see the logic. Another way to force fed level attrition.

But remote work, in general, is a done deal. No one in the industries that it works for wants to transition back.
I disagree. For all the benefits that come along with working in the public sector, having to work in the office is a small sacrifice.
 
I'll tell the truth. I didn't want to be sent home. I missed the face-to-face interactions and feedback I'd get from it. I could motivate my employees much easier, too. We were a team who had fun and got a lot of good work done.

5 years in and I've gotten way too used to it. I do about 5 or 6 hours of real "work" per week. If there's a remote meeting I need to attend, I'll listen to it in the background while I'm monkeying around on RPF. I was once the most productive person at work, but now I do just enough to keep things moving. If I don't have any meetings for a few hours, I'll go ice fishing or take my dog for a walk or work in my shop or whatever else I can get into. I have my phone alerts in case something pops up. So yeah, I can see why lazy people would love this. At least in my work life, I'm now one of them. But there's no way anyone can convince me this is beneficial.

Good on Trump for switching this back!
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CaptUSA again.
 
I'll tell the truth. I didn't want to be sent home. I missed the face-to-face interactions and feedback I'd get from it. I could motivate my employees much easier, too. We were a team who had fun and got a lot of good work done.

5 years in and I've gotten way too used to it. I do about 5 or 6 hours of real "work" per week. If there's a remote meeting I need to attend, I'll listen to it in the background while I'm monkeying around on RPF. I was once the most productive person at work, but now I do just enough to keep things moving. If I don't have any meetings for a few hours, I'll go ice fishing or take my dog for a walk or work in my shop or whatever else I can get into. I have my phone alerts in case something pops up. So yeah, I can see why lazy people would love this. At least in my work life, I'm now one of them. But there's no way anyone can convince me this is beneficial.

Good on Trump for switching this back!

This to me, is why people want to go back. Managers who manage by anecdote instead of data.

In information work (coding, data analysis) managing by anecdote doesn't work. You need data. And the employees who avoid work, need a micro-manager.

Working in cubicle land is hard for coders. Because I can't stop coffee people from walking into my cube ranting about B.S.

So, I agree there's different work cultures. If you struggle to manage people in-person, you'll certainly struggle when they are not. If you are managing by data (results), and you are in information work, your employees have more time to work, and less disturbances when they are remote.

Many jobs are just writing. You wouldn't expect an author of a book to go work in a cubicle with a bunch of other writers. It would just be distracting.

Anyway, it's not a one size fits all approach, and different people manage differently.

But like I said, the text of the EO says exemptions will be allowed. Guaranteed there will be many.

TLDR; people who want to socialize and manage by anecdote want to be in-person. People who want to not be bothered and just get their stuff done and be judged on merit, like remote.
 
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This to me, is why people want to go back. Managers who manage by anecdote instead of data.

In information work (coding, data analysis) managing by anecdote doesn't work. You need data. And the employees who avoid work, need a micro-manager.

Working in cubicle land is hard for coders. Because I can't stop coffee people from walking into my cube ranting about B.S.

So, I agree there's different work cultures. If you struggle to manage people in-person, you'll certainly struggle when they are not. If you are managing by data (results), and you are in information work, your employees have more time to work, and less disturbances when they are remote.

Many jobs are just writing. You wouldn't expect an author of a book to go work in a cubicle with a bunch of other writers. It would just be distracting.

Anyway, it's not a one size fits all approach, and different people manage differently.

But like I said, the text of the EO says exemptions will be allowed. Guaranteed there will be many.
Maybe you are the outlier.
My suspicion is most of the Government employees can work in the office and their efficiency would increase in the office.
For the exception, maybe there should be an exception.
 
TLDR; people who want to socialize and manage by anecdote want to be in-person. People who want to not be bothered and just get their stuff done and be judged on merit, like remote.

Sorry, that's a bunch of bullshit. I agree that it's not a one-size-fits-all approach. I'm not a coder or a data analyst so maybe I'm looking at it from a different angle. But I used to enjoy accomplishing feats that seemed unachievable - and now I "just want to get my stuff done". The enjoyment from my work is not the same. The sense of accomplishment from my team is not the same.

Maybe remote work is for low-engagement, cubicle-type people?? What does it matter if you're in a cubicle in an office vs. at home? Heck, that kind of work should probably get replaced with AI anyway. But if you're solving complex problems engaging multiple people and teams, there's no substitute for in-person engagement.
 
Black pilled right wingers and lolbertarians hit hardest by Trump's first day.

Bonus: Vivek is slithering back to Ohio and staying away from DC.
 
It was a good first day.

Every day to pass will be devoted to Izrael and the billionaire class with an occasional crumb thrown to the rabble every now and then.
 
Sorry, that's a bunch of bullshit. I agree that it's not a one-size-fits-all approach. I'm not a coder or a data analyst so maybe I'm looking at it from a different angle. But I used to enjoy accomplishing feats that seemed unachievable - and now I "just want to get my stuff done". The enjoyment from my work is not the same. The sense of accomplishment from my team is not the same.

Maybe remote work is for low-engagement, cubicle-type people?? What does it matter if you're in a cubicle in an office vs. at home? Heck, that kind of work should probably get replaced with AI anyway. But if you're solving complex problems engaging multiple people and teams, there's no substitute for in-person engagement.

Agree to disagree.
 
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