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tropical storm Dean heading towards US refineries

WannaBfree

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if refineries are damaged again, we are gonna have some problems. Last I read, the damage from previous storms have not been repaired yet.
 
Yep....I agree.....I stocked up another 4--55gal drums of gasoline at FRN 2.53/gal in anticipation of it running well over 3 bucks later this fall.

Never a crisis if you are prepared.
 
If weather, specifically hurricanes interests you, pay a visit to Hurricane City. There is also a threaded message area you can get to from the site as well.

Interesting information, I started following it before and after Katrina hit. They had some very lively discussions going on. I'll have to go see what they're theorizing the path will be.
 
I like the fact that the storm is over a week away and our local stations are already trying to whip everyone into a frenzy. They're talking about the "massive storm" (currently a category 1 minimal hurricane :rolleyes:) that is "bearing down on Houston" (It will be Monday before we know if it even gets in the Gulf :rolleyes:) and how people need to "start preparing to evacuate." When this turns into another media-driven fiasco, I hope heads roll for it.

There was no reason for 90% of the people who evacuated for Hurricane Rita to do so. The media-driven panic caused massive gridlocks and gasoline shortages that left people stranded in coastal areas that NEEDED to move inland for their immediate safety. :mad:

And of course we all know that Tropical Storm Erin with her 45 mph winds this morning did so much damage that our gas of course is going to triple in price as a result :rolleyes:
 
There was no reason for 90% of the people who evacuated for Hurricane Rita to do so. The media-driven panic caused massive gridlocks and gasoline shortages that left people stranded in coastal areas that NEEDED to move inland for their immediate safety. :mad:

Oh I dunno, I think given what happened with Katrina 3 weeks earlier, it was better to be safe than sorry. Those in NOLA were told to leave, but wouldn't or couldn't got wrecked.
I live in Lake Charles La, and Rita hit here, I left the day before we were ordered to leave, no traffic at all, and was out of the radius of resource drain before the storm got here. The only reason there were people stuck in gridlock was because they didn't leave when told to...and ran out of gas.
I stayed at my parents house in PA, in nice late summer weather, while those that stayed suffered 100 deg heat with no electricity. I was glad to be gone. When I rolled into town 3 weeks later, trees were piled 20feet high along every road, it was like driving through a tunnel. Every roof had a blue tarp, some now just getting repaired, and most stores were not open for many months, some not open until after the new year, if they returned at all. The damage here is still evident, almost 2 years after Rita.
I live 30 miles from the coast, next to the Calcasieu River, the tidal surge stopped 2 miles south of me, Cameron Parish below me is Gone.
Worry or get whipped into a frenzy when a storm is a week away? I think some might.
 
Get the debit card ready Fema

Its Fendi bags and for the guys endless strippers to ease your pain. I cannot wait to see how the FEDS respond if its bad, I wish it would hook right and finish the New Orleans job. That place is nothing but the new murder capital of the world now. Sorry but those looted billions and sinking trailers really PMO.
 
they pretty much tear down and rebuild all the refineries on a semi-annual basis. alot of the equipment can only be shutdown once.. so when that happens...

my point is this... at $2.00+/gallon there is plenty of incentive to get the crews out to repair the refineries that "went offline." plenty of people are willing to take the hours and do the work, no real shortage there. what you are seeing here is the basic enron economic law of supply and demand.

in the equation demand (even growth of demand) is guaranteed... in other words, they'll sale what they produce even at 3.00. supply is the only uncertain variable and is left in the hands of a small minority of the population. this population (and those within close economic circles) can afford the gas at any price in any vehicle so they suffer less than they benefit from a shortage in supply and artificial surges in demand (see buying gas $5 bucks at a time, life on the gas light).

Simply put, the shortage in supply is artificially maintained because it benefits the owners. Sadly this is probably the only thing that will slow down the my toy is bigger than yours SUV craze... forget co2, it's everything else that spews out your exhaust! So there is some benefit... but it really is eating alot of people's lunch.
 
Rick Perry has the NTL Guard all ready to deploy and there is all sorts of Police and Sherrif movement throughout the state over this Tropical Storm Erin that has yet to produce any real weather in Victoria. Maybe further up the coast, but not here.
 
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