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Matt Collins

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"Libertarians Rising."

No, that's not the title of a new libertarian outreach pamphlet.

It's an essay in the October 18 issue of TIME magazine -- written by no less
than Michael Kinsley, one of America's most respected and astute political
commentators.

Now Kinsley is no libertarian. He's a liberal. And that makes his essay all the
more significant.

Kinsley argues that two strong impulses are emerging in American politics:
libertarianism and communitarianism. Communitarians, Kinsley explains, "believe
that group responsibilities (to family, community, nation, the globe) should
trump individual rights."

He contrasts that to libertarianism, which stresses individual rights.

Which philosophy -- libertarianism or communitarianism -- will ultimately win
America's political debate?

"My money's on the libertarians," says the liberal Kinsley.

"People were shocked a couple of weeks ago when Ron Paul ... raised $5 million
from July through September, mostly on the Internet. Paul is a libertarian. In
fact, he was the Libertarian Party presidential candidate in 1988. The computer
revolution has bred a generation of smart loners, many of them rich and some of
them complacently Darwinian, convinced that they don't need society -- nor
should anyone else. They are going to be an increasingly powerful force in
politics."

Kinsley's article rehashes some silly and tired old falsehoods about
libertarians, like that one -- the notion that libertarians are "Darwinists" or
"loners... convinced that they don't need society" and so on.

But never mind that. Libertarians have ready answers to these fallacies -- and
no doubt Kinsley is already getting a fast education.

What's important is that this article, by one of America's leading political
writers, in one of America's most widely read news magazines, is yet another
striking example of how libertarian ideas are rapidly winning converts, being
taken seriously, and becoming a MAJOR part of the American political debate.
And that's great news indeed!

Oh, one more *delicious* irony.

You'll love this.

Kinsley crankily says libertarians are "earnest and impractical -- eager to
corner you with their plan for ... solving the traffic mess by privatizing
stoplights."

Well, in that very same issue of TIME, there's an excellent article entitled
"Who Really Owns the Roads?" And it's about -- yes -- the growing trend towards
privatizing highways.

And the article quotes "Bob Poole, director of transportation studies at the
Reason Foundation, a think tank."

Reason might be more precisely described as a *libertarian* think tank. And Bob
Poole has been a libertarian leader since the 1960s.

"Libertarians Rising" indeed!



http://theadvocates.org/liberator/vol-12-num-20.html
 
Excellent rebuttal to that pompous article in that fish-rag TIME. What a weasel that Michael Kinsley is...such insinuating, surly remarks. Jerk. Glad someone intelligently dismembered that sniveling POS article.
 
What is this communitarianism foolishness? Is that a real movement? It sounds like somebody trying to re-brand communism.
 
Nice article, but I see they quoted wonderboy, Frank Luntz. Too bad Time doesn't know that since the Florida debate, Frank's whitey-tighties are showing.
 
The article really tries to push the envelope of Paul as being "abnormal" when the ACTUAL truth is that NORMAL=LIAR & CROOK.

The MSM will not give "credit where credit is due".

Frank Lutz is a piece of sh*t....he deperately needs to be flushed into the sewer with his "handlers".

Luntz states,
His supporters are the equivalent of crabgrass," says GOP consultant Frank Luntz. "It's not the grass you want, and it spreads faster than the real stuff. They just like him because he's the most anti-Establishment of all the candidates, the most likely to look at the camera during the debates and say, 'Hey, Washington, f____ you.​
'

TIME MAGAZINE and DUMBSH*T LUNTZ: D.C. has become HI-JACKED by VERMIN (you know the guys you stroke off for your INCOME) Did it ever occur to you that the people ("nerds" by your estimation) want LIBERTY????

Why don't they tell us all the "virtues" of the "ESTABLISHMENT"???

LUNTZ doesn't realize that PAUL and MY SUPPORT ARE NOT ABOUT "protest".....its about REAL IDEAS which have BEEN "hi-jacked"....

PAUL STANDS FOR SOMETHING(s)....NOT against anything and everything.....


This is WHAT DUNTZ and TIME Are soooo afraid of.....
 
I like how the author tried to paint people who dress in colonial outfits at Ron Paul rallies as "weird," or people suspicious of Halliburton and Blackwater the same way or people who want to say, "F you" to Washington as fringe.

I think most people reading this would think all those things are right on!

Fuck you, Frank!
 
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"Paul doesn't expect that he will win the nomination, and he has no interest in running as an independent again."

The first part blatantly false. He specifically said on Leno last night that he could win, and Leno didn't even disagree. Plus, he has ALWAYS said he is in it to win! I have never EVER heard him say that he doesn't expect to win the nomination!
 
Wonder what the "connection" is between LUNTZ and Time???

This is of course the LUNTZ that has been hired by Ghouliani's campaign.

And how in the hell does Luntz even comment on PAUL when his "focus groups" don't exactly show anyone that there is ANY CRABGRASS in the lawn.

Watching rome burn will be such a lucid moment.
 
I must have missed the bad article your talking about cuz the one on front page at:
http://www.time.com/time
is great.

eb


Page 2 of the article.


GREAT????

I am not a nerd.

Paul believes he has a chance to win.

Paul is not a "protest" candidate.


i find it so interesting that "smear" stories like this are found to be POSITIVE by paul supporters...


Tell me what about this story follows the line that your average Republican Grandma and Grandpa would read this and find PAUL as one of their own???

A constitution champion, best friend of the Taxpayer, pro gun rights, etc. and etc.

is not some kind of "nerd".....that is THE HEART AND SOUL of true Conservatism.....lets see TIME actually portray that "story" since they so meticulously like to spin some doosies.
 
"Paul doesn't expect that he will win the nomination, and he has no interest in running as an independent again."

The first part blatantly false. He specifically said on Leno last night that he could win, and Leno didn't even disagree. Plus, he has ALWAYS said he is in it to win! I have never EVER heard him say that he doesn't expect to win the nomination!

Yeah, complete propaganda. It's fascinating, isn't it? I don't think I've seen a single MSM piece that didn't go out of it's way to claim that, of course, this guy can't win! So Pravda-esque.

And so false! :D
 
Guess we know how they'll spin November 5th! Perhaps they think it will scare us off. Where do they dredge up sleeze like Frank Luntz? The American people are going to be saying 'fuck your frank' alot more often for now on.
 
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