Timcast IRL - Ye, Fuentes, Milo Join To Discuss Trump Dinner And Ye24

[dannno]

8pm EST

 

[tod evans]

Not the least bit interested.

 

[jkr]

aaaannnnd hes gone

27 minutes

tehy live we sleep

 

[dannno]

Tim wanted to leave the Jewish thing until the end of the show and talk about the meeting with Trump, Ye's plans, etc, etc, then get into that later. Tim told him before the show there would be pushback on the Jewish issue. Ye said he was ok with that.

The show starts and Ye immediately gets into the stuff about his grievances with Jews. Monologues on and on, occasionally Tim pushes back a little bit for clarification. I understand. A group of individuals broke Ye. They took his money, this morning they said he's probably going to jail over tax issues. They tried to labotamize him with psychiatric drugs (lithium). This group of people who have broken him, all of them are very powerful Jewish people. What is Ye supposed to think? He's in a bad place right now, he wanted to be understood and not pressed on. So he left.

On the other hand we have Bill Gates and plenty of individuals who are in control of things who are not Jewish. Then you have all the 15 million Jews out there who have nothing to do with it. Jewish people basically invented Austrian Economics. There is certainly a discussion to be had about the balance of power that individual Jewish people have, but I'm not convinced it has anything to do with the religion itself or the broader segment of society who are Jewish. Neither does Tim. He wanted to have that discussion with Ye, but Ye wasn't ready or willing.

The show is going on with Luke, Scary Mary and Hannah Claire Brimelow, they are discussing what happened and issues surrounding it. Still a good show.

Some conspiracy theories that the whole walkout was all planned by Milo - one theory to get Ye in the news, all press is good press - another that Milo is sabotaging Ye because he wants Trump.

 

[kahless]

If you like scam artists scamming other scam artists then sure I guess it was a good "show".

 

[69360]

Trump threw them under the bus today. I'm very much enjoying Trump's campaign falling apart already. Hopefully he is gone before the serious candidates announce.

 

[dannno]

If you like scam artists scamming other scam artists then sure I guess it was a good "show".

That is poor framing.

 

[dannno]

Trump threw them under the bus today. I'm very much enjoying Trump's campaign falling apart already. Hopefully he is gone before the serious candidates announce.

How is Trump's campaign falling apart?

 

[acptulsa]

That is poor framing.

Either that, or it's accurate framing, and it's your frame of reference that's poor.

How is Trump's campaign falling apart?

After having had him shoved down their throats continually for seven years by the MSM, after reflecting on the numerous "3D chess moves" that mated only the public, even the second most dense rank of Republicans are beginning to smell a rat.

That leaves only you guys.

 

[dannno]

Either that, or it's accurate framing, and it's your frame of reference that's poor.

Highly doubtful.

After having had him shoved down their throats continually for seven years by the MSM, after reflecting on the numerous "3D chess moves" that mated only the public, even the second most dense rank of Republicans are beginning to smell a rat.

That leaves only you guys.

Lol, ok..

 

[acptulsa]

Highly doubtful.

 

[dannno]

Do you really think Tim is doing this for money?

Do you have any idea how many times he has left money on the table, overpaid his workers (Adam Crigler was making a higher salary than Tim when they were doing the podcast back in the day), given up ad deals and given up ginormous production deals to do things the way he thinks is most valuable for the cause he is working toward?

I can't think of anybody who is more the opposite of a grifter than Tim Pool, with the possible exception of Trump, whose losses from running for President will probably end up being in the billions of dollars.

 

[TheTexan]

Tim proved Ye's point, with his holier-than-thou kneejerk response to the simple phrase "the Jews".

Can't argue with someone when they're like that, I would have left the room too

 

[acptulsa]

...Trump, whose losses from running for President...

 

[TheTexan]

The youtube comments are on point. Tim fucked this interview hard

Ye was speaking from his personal experience. He's a high-profile artist and businessman who has direct connections to the most powerful people in the world. He's not a conspiracy theorist, he's an insider sharing information about a world that most people only get a skewed view of through the media, and how he has been impacted personally. The fact that his statements were being denied when he was speaking of it on that level might have been why he walked out.

Tim was so close to having the biggest youtube podcast of all time and then he blew it in 20 minutes

 

[dannno]

The youtube comments are on point. Tim fucked this interview hard

His "knee-jerk response" was to ask for clarification - name names - talk specifics. Distance the people he is talking about from the larger community of 15 million Jewish people. But I don't disagree with the point that Ye is coming from a place of personal experience with high level bankers, business people, etc. Could have been an interesting conversation.

 

[TheTexan]

His "knee-jerk response" was to ask for clarification - name names - talk specifics. Distance the people he is talking about from the larger community of 15 million Jewish people.

No, Tim did not ask for specifics. All Tim did was provide the predictable woke bullshit and frankly boring response about how Jews shouldn't be "collectivized" - which Ye reasonably interpreted as coming from a dismissive attitude and not a genuine interest in "specific names".

Ye told Tim exactly who he was referring to (at 9:45): the Jews in banking and media who had screwed him over. But Tim wasn't listening to any of that. Tim continued on and on with his anti-collectivism/anti-identarianism bullshit, which usually only happens on forums like this one (and its equally as annoying when it happens here).

But I don't disagree with the point that Ye is coming from a place of personal experience with high level bankers, business people, etc. Could have been an interesting conversation.

Could have been an interesting conversation. And if Tim had come across as genuinely trying to understand Ye's position, and asked for specific examples, I think Ye would have been happy to provide.

But Tim did not come across as genuine at all. He came across like a smug woke leftist trying to virtue signal.

 

[dannno]

But Tim did not come across as genuine at all. He came across like a smug woke leftist trying to virtue signal.

A smug woke leftist who told Ye that the corporate elites have treated him unfairly kind of virtue signaling? Haven't seen that one yet.

I feel like Fuentes is the one who stirred the pot and got everything all riled up before Ye left. I'm still reserving full judgement, and while I've found some of Fuentes stuff entertaining I don't know if I'm a huge fan. I guess he has a podcast called "America First" I think. I'm sure he makes some good points on there, but probably a lot to disagree with as well if I had to guess.

 

[dannno]

Also, Tim's biggest complaint is that woke IS identitarian. Tim is anti-identitarian. So technically Fuentes and Milo have more in common with them because they are somewhat identitarian. Ye is on a different level to most people, I don't think he is the best at communicating his thoughts and I think Milo and Fuentes have gotten in his head a little on the Jewish stuff.

 

[TheTexan]

A smug woke leftist who told Ye that the corporate elites have treated him unfairly kind of virtue signaling? Haven't seen that one yet.

Tim was virtue signalling for 20 minutes. One forced and desperate comment to try to prevent Ye from walking out does not change that fact.

I feel like Fuentes is the one who stirred the pot and got everything all riled up before Ye left. I'm still reserving full judgement, and while I've found some of Fuentes stuff entertaining I don't know if I'm a huge fan. I guess he has a podcast called "America First" I think. I'm sure he makes some good points on there, but probably a lot to disagree with as well if I had to guess.

The only thing I recall Fuentes saying was something to the effect of basically agreeing with Kanye.