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The Russia-Ukraine War

US media says declares war and invades. Russian government says peacekeeping mission in territory they have defacto controlled since 2014.
 
69360 said:
US media says declares war and invades. Russian government says peacekeeping mission in territory they have defacto controlled since 2014.
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Semantics. The actions taken by Putin are war, no matter the hyperbole used to describe it. And it’s one of those situations where hyperbole is warranted.

But yes, the US MSM (aka Military Media Industrial Complex) is having an orgy. It has been full employment time for every discredited neocon and neolib pundit and propagandist for the past couple of weeks.
 
Brian4Liberty said:
Semantics. The actions taken by Putin are war, no matter the hyperbole used to describe it. And it’s one of those situations where hyperbole is warranted.

But yes, the US MSM (aka Military Media Industrial Complex) is having an orgy. It has been full employment time for every discredited neocon and neolib pundit and propagandist for the past couple of weeks.
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So when the US rolls our peacekeeping troops into yet other conflict areas it's declaring war?

This has been a whole lot of nothing so far.
 
69360 said:
So when the US rolls our peacekeeping troops into yet other conflict areas it's declaring war?

This has been a whole lot of nothing so far.
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Do you really think Biden will declare war,,rather than face the Truckers? (or will he catch covid)
 
69360 said:
So when the US rolls our peacekeeping troops into yet other conflict areas it's declaring war?
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That’s exactly what honest people always call it. Or undeclared war if you prefer.

69360 said:
This has been a whole lot of nothing so far.
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Nationwide cyber attacks and actual kinetic attacks on the Capital (Kiev). Not nothing. Acts of war.
 
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Russia moves on Ukraine, explosions near Kyiv.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-begins-military-operation-in-ukraine-034221417.html

Russian President Vladimir Putin signaled the start of a military operation in Ukraine early Thursday morning local time, announcing that Russian troops would enter Ukraine's Donbas region. The territory is held by Russian-backed separatists and Putin declared it independent of Ukraine earlier this week.

“I have decided to conduct a special military operation,” Putin said in an early morning speech broadcast on Russian television. “Russia cannot exist with a constant threat emanating from the territory of Ukraine.”

Experts described the move, which was reported by the Russian state news agency TASS, as a de facto declaration of war. “Putin has declared war on Ukraine,” tweeted Alexander Vindman, a retired United States Army lieutenant colonel who was the director for European affairs for the National Security Council under former President Donald Trump. “The objective is to demilitarize and pacify Ukraine. This is basically the worst case scenario ... Putin wants to destroy Ukraine’s armed forces and install a puppet regime.”

CNN immediately reported its “team on the ground is hearing several loud explosions near Kyiv, the capital of Ukraine.”

President Biden released a statement condemning the “unprovoked and unjustified attack.”
 
pcosmar said:
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last one I saw of Kiev tonight was quiet.
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CNN and Fox have reporters in Kiev that keep saying they hear explosions, but they don't have any video. Take that with a grain of salt.

This is supposedly one of the explosions:

 
pcosmar said:
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last one I saw of Kiev tonight was quiet.
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https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/loud-exp...in Ukraine located in the country’s northeast.

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12.18pm – The Ukrainian ambassador to the UN urged other member nations to “stop the war” while Russian ambassador responded, “This isn’t called a war, this is called a special military operation in Donbas.”

12.14pm – The US Ambassador to the United Nations said Putin had “delivered a message of war”.

12.10pm – Explosions have been heard in Boryspil area, east of Kyiv, Kharkiv, Kramatorsk, Mariupol, Black Sea Port in Odessa and Zaporizhzhia. Artillery fire was also heard in Kharkiv.

12pm – The Russian ambassador to the United Nations, Vasily Alekseevich Nebenzya, justified Russia’s action to conduct military action in the Donbas during an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council.

11.50am – All airlines and other civilian flights instructed to avoid Ukrainian airspace.


all I can dig up right now.
 
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Come on,, pull up Knob Hill or something.

Media Lies have been getting well Documented Lately.
 
Does seem like the people who had been shelling people in the region are getting shelled themselves.

Interesting,, and I wish folks in the area the best..
 
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