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Godfather89

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What about the Freemasons? I mean the founding fathers were Freemasons... Everyone's saying "oh the Freemasons are bad!" I think their is something more than just the Masonic Lodges being bad... I mean you have tyrants in the Masonic Lodges yet the very people who helped make this country become what it is today are also Freemasons.

Being an esoteric Christian, I have researched the Freemasons intimately and the findings are interesting. I am not in any Masonic lodge but find them interesting to say the least.

It starts with Jesus Christ and a Jewish Sect called The Essenes, these were like the esoteric order who detached themselves from society and practiced differently from traditional Judaism, kind of like the Mystics and Sages of The Jewish Culture. They were enlightened men, enlightened by God. Their relationship to the Jewish Community was unstable to say the least, their was friction. Now John the Baptist was an Essene and it is believed that John taught Jesus everything about God and what not. Everyone knows what unfolds as we go through the Bible.

After Rome sacked Israel and destroyed The Temple. The Jews called a Synod, the Christian sect made the Jewish question what it means to be Jewish and apparently the cut off the Essene from the rest of the Jewish community. The Essene's kind of disappear, but as time goes on "The Gnostic's" come into view and the Christ community has a variety of teachers of course history has shown that these teachers claimed others heretics and were also killed by Romans as well. Time goes on The Gnostic's are persecuted by the developing orthodoxy.

Than The Knights Templar come into light and the same exact thing happens they are largely wiped out as well... Than Kabbalist and Hermeticism resurfaces and disappears... Than Rosicrucian come in to view, the come and go and stirring up interest among them... Than the masonic lodges are set up encompassing esoteric teachings among other things.

The Freemasons have been around for quite some time now, and its history is interesting. If they are from esoteric roots that even pre-date The Essene's than my curiosity elite is that this secret spiritual elite of enlighten peoples are guiding world events.

HOWEVER, my point is being that they are enlightened and that many spiritual teachers are associated with this esoteric bloodline my impression is that we are being pushed down a path of illumination and enlightenment, these people are not bad nor good in terms of the mundane understanding of the word.

Its just a theory... Thoughts? Think Im Crazy? Think Its Interesting? Comments or Concerns...
 
tl;dr but

I was invited to essentially become a free mason, and so naturally I did some heavy research on the topic.

I really don't feel like I should be calling anyone Worshipful Master..
 
LoL, my point... although they claim that its not meant to be worshipping or idolizing the person, its a title. Even so, the titles are well idolitrous.
 
The Complete Idiot's Guide to Freemasonry (Complete Idiot's Guide to) (Paperback)

About the Author
S. Brent Morris, Ph.D., 33°, is managing editor of the largest-circulation Masonic magazine in the world, the Scottish Rite Journal of the Supreme Council, 33°, S.J. A former mathematician with the federal government, he’s been invited to lecture at over 100 universities, has taught at Duke and Johns Hopkins Universities, and is currently on the graduate faculty at George Washington University.

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Idiots-Guide-Freemasonry/dp/1592574904/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b

Freemasons For Dummies (For Dummies (History, Biography & Politics)) (Paperback)

Christopher Hodapp (Indianapolis, IN) is a Mason who has traveled extensively reporting on Masonic practices in Great Britain, France, and elsewhere. He is currently a Past Master and a Master of his lodge. Hodapp edits the lodge newsletter and has written for the Grand Lodge magazine, the Indiana Freemason.

http://www.amazon.com/Freemasons-Dum...7619048&sr=1-1
 
What about the Freemasons? I mean the founding fathers were Freemasons... Everyone's saying "oh the Freemasons are bad!" I think their is something more than just the Masonic Lodges being bad... I mean you have tyrants in the Masonic Lodges yet the very people who helped make this country become what it is today are also Freemasons.

Being an esoteric Christian, I have researched the Freemasons intimately and the findings are interesting. I am not in any Masonic lodge but find them interesting to say the least.

It starts with Jesus Christ and a Jewish Sect called The Essenes, these were like the esoteric order who detached themselves from society and practiced differently from traditional Judaism, kind of like the Mystics and Sages of The Jewish Culture. They were enlightened men, enlightened by God. Their relationship to the Jewish Community was unstable to say the least, their was friction. Now John the Baptist was an Essene and it is believed that John taught Jesus everything about God and what not. Everyone knows what unfolds as we go through the Bible.

After Rome sacked Israel and destroyed The Temple. The Jews called a Synod, the Christian sect made the Jewish question what it means to be Jewish and apparently the cut off the Essene from the rest of the Jewish community. The Essene's kind of disappear, but as time goes on "The Gnostic's" come into view and the Christ community has a variety of teachers of course history has shown that these teachers claimed others heretics and were also killed by Romans as well. Time goes on The Gnostic's are persecuted by the developing orthodoxy.

Than The Knights Templar come into light and the same exact thing happens they are largely wiped out as well... Than Kabbalist and Hermeticism resurfaces and disappears... Than Rosicrucian come in to view, the come and go and stirring up interest among them... Than the masonic lodges are set up encompassing esoteric teachings among other things.

The Freemasons have been around for quite some time now, and its history is interesting. If they are from esoteric roots that even pre-date The Essene's than my curiosity elite is that this secret spiritual elite of enlighten peoples are guiding world events.

HOWEVER, my point is being that they are enlightened and that many spiritual teachers are associated with this esoteric bloodline my impression is that we are being pushed down a path of illumination and enlightenment, these people are not bad nor good in terms of the mundane understanding of the word.

Its just a theory... Thoughts? Think Im Crazy? Think Its Interesting? Comments or Concerns...

What do you mean when you say they are 'enlightened people'?

What a load of hogwash.

It's nothing but 'OOooh.. I'm in a secret club with weird beliefs' 'Oooooh... so am I' 'Ooooh aren't we great?' 'Ooooooh yes we are' ... pathetic indulgence for childish men.

Pete
 
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Typical Masonic Oath
Taken by 3rd Degree Freemasons – (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1964 A.D.)

The blindfolded candidate kneels at the altar, places both hands on the volume of sacred law, the square and compass, and repeats after the worshipful master:

I, _________, of my own free will and accord, in the presence of Almighty God, and this Worshipful Lodge, erected to Him and dedicated to the holy St. John, do hereby and hereon most solemnly and sincerely promise and swear, that I will hail, ever conceal, and never reveal any of the secrets, arts, parts, point or points, of the Master Mason's Degree, to any person or persons whomsoever, except that it be a true and lawful brother of this Degree, or in a regularly constituted Lodge of Master Masons, nor unto him, or them, until by strict trial, due examination, or lawful information, I shall have found him, or them, as lawfully entitled to the same as I am myself. I furthermore promise and swear, that I will stand to and abide by all laws, rules, and regulations of the Master Masons Degree, and of the Lodge of which I may hereafter become a member, as far as the same shall come to my knowledge; and that I will ever maintain and support the Constitution, laws, and edicts of the Grand Lodge under which the same shall be holden. Further, that I will acknowledge and obey all due signs and summons sent to me from a Master Masons' Lodge, or given me by a brother of that Degree, if within the length of my cable tow. Further, that I will always aid and assist all poor, distressed, worthy Master Masons, their widows and orphans, knowing them to be such, as far as their necessities may require, and my ability permit, without material injury to myself and family. Further, that I will keep a worthy brother Master Mason's secrets inviolable, when communicated to and received by me as such, murder and treason excepted. Further, that I will not aid, nor be present at, the initiation, passing, or raising of a woman, an old man in his dotage, a young man in his nonage, an atheist, a madman, or fool, knowing them to be such. Further, that I will not sit in a Lodge of Clandestine-made Masons, nor converse on the subject of Masonry with a clandestine-made Mason, nor one who has been expelled or suspended from a Lodge, while under that sentence, knowing him or them to be such. Further, I will not cheat, wrong, nor defraud a Master Masons' Lodge, nor a brother of this Degree, knowingly, nor supplant him in any of his laudable undertakings, but will give him due and timely notice, that he may ward off all danger. Further, that I will not knowingly strike a brother Master Mason, or otherwise do him personal violence in anger, except in the necessary defense of my family or property. Further, that I will not have illegal carnal intercourse with a Master Mason's wife, his mother, sister, or daughter knowing them to be such, nor suffer the same to be done by others, if in my power to prevent. Further, that I will not give the Grand Masonic word, in any other manner or form than that in which I shall receive it, and then in a low breath. Further, that I will not give the Grand Hailing Sign of distress except in case of the most imminent danger, in a just and lawful Lodge, or for the benefit of instruction; and if ever I should see it given, or hear the words accompanying it, by a worthy brother in distress, I will fly to his relief, if there is a greater probability of saving his life than losing my own. All this I most solemnly, sincerely promise and swear, with a firm and steady resolution to perform the same, without any hesitation, myself, under no less penalty than that of having my body severed in two, my bowels taken from thence and burned to ashes, the ashes scattered before the four winds of heaven, that no more remembrance might be had of so vile and wicked a wretch as I would be, should I ever, knowingly, violate this my Master Mason's obligation. So help me God, and keep me steadfast in the due performance of the same.
 
Enlightened... The higher you are on the scales the more enlightened you are... It could be the mystical teachings, however, during the meetings I know they do not talk politics, religion or other sensitive info that could lead to division. Their supposed to be united in Making the world a better place.

READ: Inner West by Jay Kinney
 
If freemasonry was so bad, why did the freemason founding forefathers forma republic and denounce the evil forces of central banking?
 
If freemasonry was so bad, why did the freemason founding forefathers forma republic and denounce the evil forces of central banking?
The founding father Freemasons opposed monarchy, at that time all the rage in Europe.

Alexander Hamilton ( under cover Rothschild Bank of England agent BTW ) was a central bankster himself. ;)
 
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If freemasonry was so bad, why did the freemason founding forefathers forma republic and denounce the evil forces of central banking?

Its probably like any other organization. I'm sure the catholic church started off as peaceful revolutionaries too.
 
Most of the founding Fathers were Order of the Illuminati.

What about the Freemasons? I mean the founding fathers were Freemasons... Everyone's saying "oh the Freemasons are bad!" I think their is something more than just the Masonic Lodges being bad... I mean you have tyrants in the Masonic Lodges yet the very people who helped make this country become what it is today are also Freemasons.

Being an esoteric Christian, I have researched the Freemasons intimately and the findings are interesting. I am not in any Masonic lodge but find them interesting to say the least.

It starts with Jesus Christ and a Jewish Sect called The Essenes, these were like the esoteric order who detached themselves from society and practiced differently from traditional Judaism, kind of like the Mystics and Sages of The Jewish Culture. They were enlightened men, enlightened by God. Their relationship to the Jewish Community was unstable to say the least, their was friction. Now John the Baptist was an Essene and it is believed that John taught Jesus everything about God and what not. Everyone knows what unfolds as we go through the Bible.

After Rome sacked Israel and destroyed The Temple. The Jews called a Synod, the Christian sect made the Jewish question what it means to be Jewish and apparently the cut off the Essene from the rest of the Jewish community. The Essene's kind of disappear, but as time goes on "The Gnostic's" come into view and the Christ community has a variety of teachers of course history has shown that these teachers claimed others heretics and were also killed by Romans as well. Time goes on The Gnostic's are persecuted by the developing orthodoxy.

Than The Knights Templar come into light and the same exact thing happens they are largely wiped out as well... Than Kabbalist and Hermeticism resurfaces and disappears... Than Rosicrucian come in to view, the come and go and stirring up interest among them... Than the masonic lodges are set up encompassing esoteric teachings among other things.

The Freemasons have been around for quite some time now, and its history is interesting. If they are from esoteric roots that even pre-date The Essene's than my curiosity elite is that this secret spiritual elite of enlighten peoples are guiding world events.

HOWEVER, my point is being that they are enlightened and that many spiritual teachers are associated with this esoteric bloodline my impression is that we are being pushed down a path of illumination and enlightenment, these people are not bad nor good in terms of the mundane understanding of the word.

Its just a theory... Thoughts? Think Im Crazy? Think Its Interesting? Comments or Concerns...

THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS
So who are the members of the CFR? Let’s start with the

Presidents of the United States. Members of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) include: Herbert Hoover, Dwight Eisenhower, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, James Carter, George Bush Senior, and William Clinton. John F. Kennedy claimed he was a member, but his name does not appear on former membership lists. So there is confusion on that one, but he said he was a member. Incidentally, Kennedy was a graduate of the London School of Economics, which was founded by Sydney and Beatrice Webb to promote the ruling-class and collectivist concepts of the Fabians. Former presidential candidate John Kerry is also a member as is Vice President Richard Cheney.

Secretaries of State who were CFR members include: Robert Lansing, Frank Kellogg, Henry Stimpson, Cordell Hull, E.R. Stittinius, George Marshall, Dean Acheson, John Foster Dulles, Christian Herter, Dean Rusk, William Rogers, Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, Edmund Muskie, Alexander Haig, George Schultz, James Baker, Lawrence Eagelberger, Warren Christopher, William Richardson, Madeleine Albright, Colin Powell, and Condoleezza Rice.

Secretaries of Defense who were members of the CFR include James Forrestal, George Marshall, Charles Wilson, Neil McElroy, Robert McNamara, Melvin Laird, Elliot Richardson, James Schlesinger, Harold Brown, Casper Weinberger, Frank Carlucci, Richard Cheney, Les Aspin, William Perry, William Cohen, and Donald Rumsfeld. It is interesting that Rumsfeld has asked that his name be removed from the current list of CFR members. However, you will find his name on previous lists.

CIA Directors who were members of the CFR include Walter Smith, William Colby, Richard Helms, Allen Dulles, John McCone, James Schlesinger, George Bush, Sr., Stansfield Turner, William Casey, William Webster, Robert Gates, James Woolsey, John Deutch, William Studeman, George Tenet, and Porter Goss.

Some of the better known corporations controlled by past or present members of the CFR include The Atlantic Richfield Oil Co., AT&T, Avon Products, Bechtel (construction) Group, Boeing Company, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Chevron., Coca Cola and Pepsi Cola, Consolidated Edison of New York, EXXON, Dow Chemical, du Pont Chemical, Eastman Kodak, Enron, Estee Lauder, Ford Motor, General Electric, General Foods, Hewlett-Packard, Hughes Aircraft, IBM, International Paper, Johnson & Johnson, Levi Strauss & Co., Lockheed Aerospace, Lucent Technologies, Mobil Oil, Monsanto, Northrop, Pacific Gas & Electric, Phillips Petroleum, Procter & Gamble, Quaker Oats, Yahoo, Shell Oil, Smith Kline Beecham (pharmaceuticals), Sprint Corp., Texaco, Santa Fe Southern-Pacific Railroad, Teledyne, TRW, Southern California Edison, Unocal, United Technologies, Verizon Communications, Warner-Lambert, Weyerhauser, and Xerox

In the Media there are past or present members of the CFR holding key management or control positions – not just working down the line – but in top management and control positions of Atlantic magazine, The Army Times, American Publishers, American Spectator, Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Associated Press, Association of American Publishers, Boston Globe, Business Week, Christian-Science Monitor, Dallas Morning News, Detroit Free Press, Detroit News, Dow Jones News Service, Farm Journal, Financial Times, Financial World, Forbes, Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Harper’s, Industry Week, Insight, London Times, Los Angeles Times, Medical Tribune, MySpace, National Geographic, National Review, Naval War College Review, New Republic, New York Post, New York Times, New Yorker, New York Review of Books, Newsday, News Max, Newsweek, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, The Progressive, Political Science Quarterly, Public Interest, Random House, Reader’s Digest, Rolling Stone, Rupert Murdoch News Corp, San Diego Union-Tribune, Scientific American, Time, Times Mirror, Time-Warner, U.S. News & World Report, USA Today, Wall Street Journal, Warner Books, Washington Post, Washington Times, The Washingtonian, Weekly Standard, World Policy Journal, Worldwatch, W.W. Norton & Co., ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, NBC, PBS, RCA, and the Walt Disney Company.

CFR media personalities include David Brinkley, Tom Brokaw, William Buckley, Dan Rather, Diane Sawyer, Barbara Walters, and Katie Couric, and Andrea Mitchell wife of CFR member Alan Greenspan.

In the universities, the number of past or present CFR members who are professors, department chairman, presidents, or members of the board of directors is 563.

In financial institutions, such as banks, the Federal Reserve System, the stock exchanges, and brokerage houses the total number of CFR members in controlling positions is 284.

In tax exempt foundations and think tanks, the number of CFR members in controlling positions is 443. Some of the better known names are: The American Civil Liberties Union,2 Aspen Institute, Atlantic Council, Bilderberg Group, Brookings Institute, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Carnegie Foundation, Ford Foundation, Guggenheim Foundation, Hudson Institute, John D. & Catherine T. MacArther Foundation, Mellon Foundation, RAND Corp., Rhodes Scholarship Selection Commission, Sloan and Kettering Foundations, Rockefeller Foundation and Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Trilateral Commission, and the UN Association.

And finally, the labor unions that are dominated by past or present members of the CFR include the AFL-CIO, United Steel Workers of America, United Auto Workers, American Federation of Teachers, Bricklayers and Allied Craft, Communications Workers of America, Union of Needle Trades, and Amalgamated Clothing and Textile Workers.

Please understand that this is just a sampling of the list. The total membership is about four thousand people. There are many churches in your community that have that many members or more. What would you think if it were discovered that members of just one church in your community held controlling positions in 80% of the power centers of America? Wouldn’t you be curious? First of all you would have to find out about it, which would not be easy if those same people controlled the avenues of information that you rely on to learn of such things.

I should emphasize that most of these people are not part of a secret society. The CFR calls itself a semi-secret organization, which, indeed, it is. It is not the secret society. It is at least two rings out from that. Most members are not aware that they are controlled by an inner Round Table Group. Most of them are merely opportunists who view this organization as a high-level employment agency. They know that, if they are invited to join, their names will appear on a prestigious list, and collectivists seeking to consolidate global control will draw upon that list for important jobs. However, even though they may not be conscious agents of a secret society, they all have been carefully screened for suitability. Only collectivists are invited, and so they have the necessary mindset to be good functionaries within the New World
 
I consider the CFR a semi-secret society, kinda like the Freemasons.

A benign public facade merely masking a secret truly evil core. ;)
 
Well you says Alex Jones says on his conspiracy site that The Freemasons are bad guys. I than hear chatter that Alex Jones is a Jesuit Priest as well as a CIA agent. I am not sure about the CIA Gent part, but being a Jesuit (Catholic Group) and saying the Freemasons are bad news would make sense because Catholics are opposed to Freemasons.
 
Well you says Alex Jones says on his conspiracy site that The Freemasons are bad guys. I than hear chatter that Alex Jones is a Jesuit Priest as well as a CIA agent. I am not sure about the CIA Gent part, but being a Jesuit (Catholic Group) and saying the Freemasons are bad news would make sense because Catholics are opposed to Freemasons.

I never knew Alex Jones was a catholic though. I always assumed he was a born again christian.
 
The KNIGHTS TEMPLAR (Order of Solomon's Temple) (founded 1118)

The KNIGHTS TEMPLAR (Order of Solomon's Temple) (founded 1118) were sent on the Crusades to metaphorically capture the ‘ARK of the COVENANT’ (kept in SOLOMON’s TEMPLE).

The ‘ARK of the COVENANT’ can be re-interpreted as the ‘CONTRACT of the ARCH’ and is pretty much what modern Freemasonry is all about.


HierARCHical Structure of Freemasonry - the Contract of the ARCH by Prince Arthur, on Flickr


The Knights Templar (Order of Solomon's Temple) still exist to this day in the modern structure of Freemasonry and they stand on the top step of the YORK RITE of Freemasonry.

The following PDF document and photo links may be of interest:

https://pubastrology.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/noahs-ark-of-the-covenant-revision-5.pdf
_https://pubastrology.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/noahs-ark-of-the-covenant-revision-5.pdf
https://flickr.com/photos/142603527@N02/albums/72157718418440952

https://pubastrology.files.wordpres...d-order-of-the-knights-of-the-garter-v2_6.pdf
_https://pubastrology.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/new-world-order-of-the-knights-of-the-garter-v2_6.pdf
https://www.flickr.com/photos/142603527@N02/albums/72157716798817413

Also, Knights Trivia Quiz link (MS Powerpoint) to test how much you really know about Knights (ancient and modern).
https://pubastrology.files.wordpress.com/2021/10/quiz-knight-part-1-v1.ppsx

https://pubastrology.files.wordpress.com/2021/10/quiz-knight-part-1-v1.ppsx
 
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