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Take the matching funds and shove them up your ***

Sematary

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I know that alot of supporters, including myself, would stop supporting Dr. Paul in a heartbeat if he accepted matching funds. Not only would the regulations strangle his candidacy but I would also lose the respect that I have for him. Needless to say - I know he won't because he is Ron Paul.
 
Last time I talked with Lew about it, the campaign had not yet made a decision on the question. Don't make baseless pronouncements.
 
I know that alot of supporters, including myself, would stop supporting Dr. Paul in a heartbeat if he accepted matching funds. Not only would the regulations strangle his candidacy but I would also lose the respect that I have for him. Needless to say - I know he won't because he is Ron Paul.

I'm sorry, but that is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. That you would stop supporting him if he accepted matching funds. The only man who could make great strides in turning our country around, before we totally lose it. Unfrickin' believable. :rolleyes:
 
I think the matching funds would be a good idea and the constraints would not hurt Ron.

What would hurt him would be that he would be labelled a hypocrite, even though the matching funds are comprised of voluntary donations.

The fact that he would be hurt by some of his "true believers" becoming disillusioned would be countered by him reaching a lot more people who have yet to hear of him.

I am sure that RP will do the right thing, and I am not sure myself what that is.

I will say that matching funds were designed to help a Ron Paul type of candidacy. They are much more beneficial to a candidate that is getting many small donors than a candidate who has a few large donors.
 
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I'll support Ron Paul no matter what his decision on taking public funds is.. In his heart he may not want to take them.. but if he found it necessary to take them and we were able to deliver Liberty back to this America, then I say he should - and it is a small price to pay.
 
I'd loose respect for him too. I love his message about taking responcibility for ourselves. He walks the talk and sets the example.

When speaking to others about his principled self, we can just add it to comments about how he won't accept donations from special interest groups, or take matching government funds from out of our taxes.

People who think he should take it don't seem to know or understand him well. He never would.

He wouldn't even let his own children take out government student loans or get government grants for college.
 
I really hope Ron does not take matching funds. He has already raised enough money that I don't think he needs it... I doubt he expected to raise as much as he has, frankly. And the number will just continue to go up, so I really don't think it is necessary.

Plus, if he does take matching funds, it will upset a good portion of his base and open up more attacks from other candidates that he is a hypocrite. Don't forget that Ron has already had to do some damage control regarding pork projects, and the excuse he used there ("the pork bills will pass anyway") isn't remotely applicable to this situation, where the decision to spend the federal money is his and his alone. I think it will be a very bad move if he takes the money.
 
I'm sorry, but that is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. That you would stop supporting him if he accepted matching funds. The only man who could make great strides in turning our country around, before we totally lose it. Unfrickin' believable. :rolleyes:

I support him BECAUSE he doesn't take taxpayer money for unconstitutional reasons. Since he believes the income tax is unconstitutional, thus making the checkbox for donating to presidential campaigns unconstitutional, don't you think it would be a little hypocritical to accept those funds from an unconstitutional source?
 
There are limits to how much you can spend in any given state in the primaries.

I don't see why people see him taking matching funds as unprincipled.

Even student loans are FORCEFULLY taken in your taxes, the voluntary contribution to matching funds is the only freely given federal taxes.

Some will call it splitting hairs, I wholeheartedly support whatever Dr. Paul chooses to do regarding this.
 
Why would anyone be dissapointed in Dr. Paul if he took the matching funds?

If these said funds are voluntarily donated to this cause then what is the problem?

I could understand the campaign not wanting to be constrained by any more regulation but for the life of me I can't figure out what is wrong with Dr.Paul accepting more voluntary donations...

Maybe somone could straighten me out on this.?.? :confused:
 
I'll respect whatever choice Dr. Paul makes. He knows FAR more than I do, and if he accepts matching funds, I'll know if it is for a good reason.
If matching funds allows the campaign to run more commercials and increase name recognition--if accepting matching funds allows Ron Paul to win--then I'm all for it.
There's a time for looking good and humble, and there's a time for kicking ass. I think we should consider this a time for kicking ass! And if Ron Paul and his campaign decide to accept the matching funds, I'll be confident that it is for a damn good reason.
I understand the issue about appearing hypocritical, but again, I'll let the Doctor decide what's best for the campaign.

Victory is what matters.

I am concerned that the media will use any ammo they can dig up against Ron Paul, and it wouldn't be a stretch for them to make a big deal about accepting matching funds. But then again...how could they bash him without bashing the others (and not end up looking like fools--because you know Dr. Paul will put them in their place).


Anyway, I just don't know. I sure as hell won't stop supporting Ron Paul, though. T'hat's crazy talk. :rolleyes:
 
Why don't we just wait until the numbers come out and stop trying to figure out the end-all and be-all
 
Why would anyone be dissapointed in Dr. Paul if he took the matching funds?

If these said funds are voluntarily donated to this cause then what is the problem?

I could understand the campaign not wanting to be constrained by any more regulation but for the life of me I can't figure out what is wrong with Dr.Paul accepting more voluntary donations...

Maybe somone could straighten me out on this.?.? :confused:

As I see it - there is NO constitutional basis for this system as it is routed through the income tax system which, itself, is unconstitutional and detrimental to society.
 
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