Sound reason to *HOARD YOUR MONEY* until December 16th.

[James R]

The campaign logic behind compromising the December 16th between now and then is this: "People in the key states will have made up their minds by December 16th."

There is ZERO evidence that people will have made up their minds on December 16th. There is evidence however that most people make up their minds in the last couple weeks. Kerry was polling at 4% about this time before he won the primaries. Furthermore, most of us here have seen many polls showing Republicans especially are very undecided! My family is generally Republican and they wait until the last couple of weeks to make up their mind.

Therefore, lets *hoard* our money until December 16th and make history and be assured many millions in free press, rather than go on a gut feeling by the campaign fund-raising director. They fired the fund-raising director shortly after November 5th. This new fundraising director is panicking after A SINGLE SLOW DONATION WEEK despite that we are AHEAD OF SCHEDULE for the quarter. That tells me I should not believe him. My theory is that the slow donations make him look bad as the new director of fund-raising, and he is panicking. So in other words, we are making a huge mistake and PANICKING rather than keeping calm and cool, being happy our donations are ahead of schedule, and then waiting for December 16th. Until we see evidence that people "make up their minds over the next three weeks", then we have no reason to compromise our December 16th event by donating some of it now.

Please read what Shaun, a marketing executive offering us free marketing advice, has said about this:

GUYS WE HAVE NO MARGIN FOR ERROR. STAY FOCUSED ON DEC 16TH.

[The Paul campaign tells us:] "If you wait a month from now to donate, your money will only be spent after Iowa caucus-goers and New Hampshire primary voters have made up their minds"

I have spent twenty years in marketing and PR, a lot of it here in Hollywood, and I can tell you that if we derail the greatest single event in political fundraising history based on that "belief" of his this will go down as the turning point for this campaign. He has absolutely no base in fact to suppose that many people will have their minds "made up" two to three weeks out. Total BS and Fantasy Island stuff. Look at History if you need to..Clinton, Kerry, Carter, Reagan. Comments like that show me how straight laced and conventional this guy is. I have HUNDREDS of people working for me in 26 countries, far more than the RP campaign, if one of my guys EVER sent out a message like that to my MARKETING people ( in this case that would be all of us..) he would be terminated. Instantly. By me. In a rage. Justifiable.

Those of you who think it's OK to raise 4m on two days just don't get how the media work. They wont' cover it. They just won't, already been done, they have that t shirt. Fundraisers should stay OUT of PR and Marketing. I do not believe for a single moment that Ron Paul knew that email was going out and my advice to everyone is to stay focused on the tea-party event.
If we raise 10m on that day it will be a shot heard around the world.
If we want to get RP into the White House it's time to take FULL, END2END responsibility to get this done and a big part of that is to recognize when execs are competent and not competent.

 

[TheEvilDetector]

The campaign logic behind compromising the December 16th between now and then is this: "People in the key states will have made up their minds by December 16th."

There is ZERO evidence that people will have made up their minds on December 16th. There is evidence however that most people make up their minds in the last couple weeks. Kerry was polling at 4% about this time before he won the primaries. Furthermore, most of us here have seen many polls showing Republicans especially are very undecided! My family is generally Republican and they wait until the last couple of weeks to make up their mind.

Therefore, lets *hoard* our money until December 16th and make history and be assured many millions in free press, rather than go on a gut feeling by the campaign fund-raising director. They fired the fund-raising director shortly after November 5th. This new fundraising director is panicking after A SINGLE SLOW DONATION WEEK despite that we are AHEAD OF SCHEDULE for the quarter. That tells me I should not believe him. My theory is that the slow donations make him look bad as the new director of fund-raising, and he is panicking. So in other words, we are making a huge mistake and PANICKING rather than keeping calm and cool, being happy our donations are ahead of schedule, and then waiting for December 16th. Until we see evidence that people "make up their minds over the next three weeks", then we have no reason to compromise our December 16th event by donating some of it now.

Please read what Shaun, a marketing executive offering us free marketing advice, has said about this:

I disagree.

Do not hoard, give now anything you can spare.

Honour your commitment to Dec 16th and possibly Nov 30th otherwise.

Lastly, I do not appreciate your implication that the fundraising director is lying and that he is incompetent.

The campaign made their reasons explicitly clear, they need money in advance to pay for airtime in critical states and they need that money now.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Im donating on the 16th but I wouldnt question the wisdom of Ron Paul.. We need to to BOTH... DOnate NOW AND during the moneybomb.. and thats that.

 

[Austin]

I think my signature sums it up nicely.

 

[newmedia4ron]

Are you registered?
Are you a delegate?
Have you applied to be a Poll Worker and/or Vote Count Watcher?
Do you know your polling place?
Have you recruited other supporters to become delegates?
Have you circulated a petition?
Have you verified (from the horse’s mouth) that Ron Paul will be on your state’s ballot?
Do you attend GOP meetings (township - county – state)?
Have you canvassed collecting names and phone numbers and sent it to HQ?
Have you promoted Ron Paul to Christian media and ProLife groups?
Do you ask your local television stations to profile/interview Ron Paul?
Do you write letters to you local newspapers?
Have you promoted Ron Paul at gunshows, anti-war rallies, prolife meetings, etc?
Have you passed out registration forms to young supporters?
Do you call talk radio shows and pitch Ron Paul?
Do you have the names, addresses, and phone numbers of your meetup members to be ready to mobilize when needed?
Have you hit the streets passing out DVDs/literature?
Have you sent letters to celebrities asking for an endorsement?
Have you attempted to get your local public access channel to play Ron Paul videos such as his previous interviews in public access shows?
Is your meetup inactive? Then do canvassing/lit drops by yourself.
Have you requested “street lists” of registered voters to target supervoters?

 

[NewEnd]

Im gonna be really pissed if they have any more than the Dec 16th money bomb in the bank by end of quarter.



Menaing if dec 16th pulls in $6 M, they better only have $5M on hand by the end of the quarter.

 

[NewEnd]

Are you registered?
Are you a delegate?
Have you applied to be a Poll Worker and/or Vote Count Watcher?
Do you know your polling place?
Have you recruited other supporters to become delegates?
Have you circulated a petition?
Have you verified (from the horse’s mouth) that Ron Paul will be on your state’s ballot?
Do you attend GOP meetings (township - county – state)?
Have you canvassed collecting names and phone numbers and sent it to HQ?
Have you promoted Ron Paul to Christian media and ProLife groups?
Do you ask your local television stations to profile/interview Ron Paul?
Do you write letters to you local newspapers?
Have you promoted Ron Paul at gunshows, anti-war rallies, prolife meetings, etc?
Have you passed out registration forms to young supporters?
Do you call talk radio shows and pitch Ron Paul?
Do you have the names, addresses, and phone numbers of your meetup members to be ready to mobilize when needed?
Have you hit the streets passing out DVDs/literature?
Have you sent letters to celebrities asking for an endorsement?
Have you attempted to get your local public access channel to play Ron Paul videos such as his previous interviews in public access shows?
Is your meetup inactive? Then do canvassing/lit drops by yourself.
Have you requested “street lists” of registered voters to target supervoters?

No, I think my time is better spent spamming the boards with messages for other people to do more.

 

[john_anderson_ii]

Here's a sounder reason to dig as deep as possible and donate now and on the 16th!

When asked to compromise, choose both.

 

[UtahApocalypse]

you are a complete idiot.

 

[Man from La Mancha]

I agree too, give a little now if you want to or can, but maybe with the blimp advertising the tea party and Ron we can get that $100 million. I also agree that they better only have less than 1 million left on the Dec 15th.




........copy,paste,linked to teaparty07.com, last 2, put the ladies anywhere and men will click on them, or make up your own hooks.

 

[Skeeterbug73]

I agree. This whole thing is turning into a nightmare. People are arguing under the comments on the you tube videos about when to donate. Some are saying not to donate on the 16th at all but to give all you can now. I feel bad for the guy who spent all that money on the ad to have it go down the drain like this. I also don't like attacking another candidate for the money bomb on the 30th. O'well whatever. I hope this works out.

 

[James R]

I disagree.

Do not hoard, give now anything you can spare.

I meant hoard it in a piggy bank jar destined for Ron Paul on the 16th of December.

Lastly, I do not appreciate your implication that the fundraising director is lying and that he is incompetent.

The campaign made their reasons explicitly clear, they need money in advance to pay for airtime in critical states and they need that money now.

I stated the fundraising director is panicking. The new guy is panicking. He is not lying. I didn't mean to somehow imply otherwise. They don't need money in advance because they can simply allow their funding to run down to zero ahead of December 16th. If they are smart, their funding will be near $0 on December 15.

 

[john_anderson_ii]

. If they are smart, their funding will be near $0 on December 15.

God I hope this is the case.

"If your engine isn't falling apart as you cross the finish line, you didn't run the race hard enough." -- Dr. "Ferry" Porsche

 

[Ann Kobialka]

my 2 cents
I believe every last cent should be given on the 16th
We will get more bamg for the buck by beating our old record
We handed the campaign 4 million they never saw coming
remember that vid of the Doctor asking the croud if the had heard about nov 5th
In my opinion only but the campaign is wasting time and money running our presidential campaign like a congressional seat run
Why are we not in the news everyday
we are doing everything better than any other campaign
\why is there not one or two full time staff refuting every single bad press article FULL TIME
AND why after 14 million cash {last quarter and this 9 mill} are we in 6th place
and we get send us more money quick more money
How about we go back to what we do and do well
Lets shake things up again for our candidate by making the tea party what it was set to be HISTORY
The campaign needs to get thier heads out of the sand and do thier job not fall back on us because they can't get us out of 6th place Ann

 

[Inflation]

BS threads need reality checks

Spamming BS threads about money bombs is not the same as spamming "the boards."

Take it to Chat.

No, I think my time is better spent spamming the boards with messages for other people to do more.

 

[KCIndy]

I think (hope) that most people will still donate as much on the 16th as they had originally intended.

Personally, I've come to the conclusion that I have to dig a little deeper. I sent in a donation after the email from the campaign. I'll send in another $100 on the 30th. And... I'm going to double what I had originally planned on donating on the 16th, and I challenge everyone reading this to do the same.

Some of this is going to go on credit cards, and I'll pay it off later. I hate to do that, but i would hate myself a lot worse if i had p*ssed away the same amount of cash on an iPod and digital camera instead of helping Dr. Paul.

Exactly how much are liberty and freedom worth to you? Let's give until it actually hurts a bit.

 

[NewEnd]

Spamming BS threads about money bombs is not the same as spamming "the boards."

Take it to Chat.

lace up your gloves and meet me in chat.

 

[saahmed]

If we can assure a MASSIVE day on Dec. 16th then I think it is fine to hold of until then. The campaign should have plenty of money to buy ads in the key states for now. Then, on Dec. 17th we get a whole bunch of free press two weeks before the Iowa caucuses, giving us momentum to get Iowa and NH while giving the campaign plenty of money to spend around the nation for super Tuesday.

 

[Libertarian]

If we wait till December 16th, they will not have the money the need to run the necessary ads in the first primary states! They need to book those ads in advance...which means they need the money within the next two weeks! December 16th will be too late. Any proceeds from the December 16th moneybomb will be used for advertising after the first primaries are over, and WE NEED TO WIN THE FIRST PRIMARIES! The press we get from winning would absolutely DWARF any press about a record fundraising day on 12/16!!!! Let's get the win folks.

Give 100% now, and make it 110% on the 16th.

 

[anotherone]

The campaign logic behind compromising the December 16th between now and then is this: "People in the key states will have made up their minds by December 16th."

There is ZERO evidence that people will have made up their minds on December 16th. There is evidence however that most people make up their minds in the last couple weeks. Kerry was polling at 4% about this time before he won the primaries. Furthermore, most of us here have seen many polls showing Republicans especially are very undecided! My family is generally Republican and they wait until the last couple of weeks to make up their mind.

Therefore, lets *hoard* our money until December 16th and make history and be assured many millions in free press, rather than go on a gut feeling by the campaign fund-raising director. They fired the fund-raising director shortly after November 5th. This new fundraising director is panicking after A SINGLE SLOW DONATION WEEK despite that we are AHEAD OF SCHEDULE for the quarter. That tells me I should not believe him. My theory is that the slow donations make him look bad as the new director of fund-raising, and he is panicking. So in other words, we are making a huge mistake and PANICKING rather than keeping calm and cool, being happy our donations are ahead of schedule, and then waiting for December 16th. Until we see evidence that people "make up their minds over the next three weeks", then we have no reason to compromise our December 16th event by donating some of it now.

Please read what Shaun, a marketing executive offering us free marketing advice, has said about this:

We are very fortunate to have people like this in the grassroots. As a non-marketing person, I don't know the best answer, but I would trust Shaun's opinion. I'm not telling any of my friends outside of the grassroots about these side tangents. I think a single, coherent message is best for most donors.