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Sociology professor challenges class to compare January 6 to BLM protests

Well if you or your kids are going to take sociology, hope that you get this guy.

Is it 30 unarmed black people killed by police each year or is it 8?
 
You should apply some of his logic to the Israel/Palestine conflict.
 
FRN Amount of property damages turned into insurance companies from blm riots exceeded any event in american istory
 
FRN Amount of property damages turned into insurance companies from blm riots exceeded any event in american istory

Lol, ya, even though he was trying to be as un-biased as possible, and came off as very reasonable compared to most of his associates, there was still a lot missing from that whole exchange.
 
That professor should thank his lucky socks he didn't get someone like me when asked about cops.

I would've derailed the entire discussion.
 
You should apply some of his logic to the Israel/Palestine conflict.

I have. You are the one missing logic when it comes to that. :rolleyes: You wouldn't last 5 minutes in his class. And I've yet to see you see the obvious parallel between January 6th and the BLM protests. So I think you'd get an F on that front too. This professor doesn't try to pretend that January 6th wasn't violent. He points out that there were violent and people protestors in both groups. None of your Q anan BS.
 
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I have. You are the one missing logic when it comes to that. :rolleyes: You wouldn't last 5 minutes in his class. And I've yet to see you see the obvious parallel between January 6th and the BLM protests. So I think you'd get an F on that front too. This professor doesn't try to pretend that January 6th wasn't violent. He points out that there were violent and people protestors in both groups. None of your Q anan BS.

Well both of you haven't been paying attention. It will likely come out, after the election of course, that there were over 100, possibly hundreds of intelligence assets at the Capitol on J6.. we also know they bussed in antifa, who put on Trump gear and pretended to be Trump supporters.

Yes, there were likely some violent Trump supporters there who got riled up by the crowd.. how many.. maybe a dozen? Two dozen? I dunno... but there were over 100,000 Trump supporters in DC that day, so that is pretty reasonable to me.
 
Well both of you haven't been paying attention. It will likely come out, after the election of course, that there were over 100, possibly hundreds of intelligence assets at the Capitol on J6.. we also know they bussed in antifa, who put on Trump gear and pretended to be Trump supporters.

If I remember correctly it's already a matter of public record that were 100+ undercover agents there. At least from what I recall from a Jimmy Dore episode.

Yes, there were likely some violent Trump supporters there who got riled up by the crowd.. how many.. maybe a dozen? Two dozen? I dunno... but there were over 100,000 Trump supporters in DC that day, so that is pretty reasonable to me.

I guess it depends on what you mean by violent. Violent against property or people? If we're just talking violence against people, then yea there really wasn't much of that going on.

With that said, to the extent that there were violent protestors there who were legit Trump supporters... I say...

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Well both of you haven't been paying attention. It will likely come out, after the election of course, that there were over 100, possibly hundreds of intelligence assets at the Capitol on J6.. we also know they bussed in antifa, who put on Trump gear and pretended to be Trump supporters.

Yes, there were likely some violent Trump supporters there who got riled up by the crowd.. how many.. maybe a dozen? Two dozen? I dunno... but there were over 100,000 Trump supporters in DC that day, so that is pretty reasonable to me.

LOL. More proof that you are the one lacking facts, logic and intelligence. I'm well aware that the were infiltrators on January 6th. Guess what? There were also infiltrators in the BLM protests! That didn't change the fact that there were regular people who were peaceful and violent in both protests. Another F for you. You keep bringing up irrelevant facts that don't dispute the points being made and think you've done something.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...f-power-alleged-informant-denver-blm-protests

Fears of renewed FBI abuse of power after informant infiltrated BLM protests
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‘Outraged’ senator Ron Wyden urges agency to explain tactics from 2020 protests reminiscent of rogue behaviour from decades past

Ed Pilkington in New York
Tue 14 Feb 2023 05.00 EST
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The FBI’s use of an informant to infiltrate Black Lives Matter in Denver during the wave of protests over the 2020 police killing of George Floyd has prompted concern in Congress that the federal agency is once again abusing its powers to harass and intimidate minority groups.

Ron Wyden, the Democratic senator from Oregon, is calling for the FBI to explain how it came to recruit a violent felon as an informant who then went on to gain prominence among Denver racial justice activists. The informant is alleged to have encouraged protesters to engage in increasingly violent demonstrations while trying to entrap them in criminal misdeeds.

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“If the allegations are true, the FBI’s use of an informant to spy on first amendment-protected activity and stoke violence at peaceful protests is an outrageous abuse of law-enforcement resources and authority,” Wyden told the Guardian.

Wyden sits on the Senate intelligence committee which has oversight over federal intelligence-gathering agencies, including the FBI. He also fought for public disclosure of Donald Trump’s deployment in 2020 of more than 750 officers to his home town of Portland, Oregon, based on what he called “politicised and false intelligence reports”.


The FBI’s infiltration of Black Lives Matter in Denver “appears to show another instance of the Trump administration trampling on the rights of Americans in order to divide our country and gain a political advantage”, Wyden said. “The FBI owes the public a full accounting of its actions, including how anyone responsible for attempting to entrap and discredit racial justice activists will be held accountable.”

The Guardian contacted the FBI for a response but did not immediately hear back.

The new revelations of alleged FBI abuses towards Black activists comes at a paradoxical moment, given the efforts of the incoming Republican House leadership. On Thursday Jim Jordan, a staunch Trump loyalist from Ohio, chaired the opening hearing of his subcommittee on the “weaponization of the federal government” which seeks to show that the main victim of federal overreach is not minority and progressive groups but Donald Trump and his far-right supporters.

The actions of the FBI informant, Michael Windecker, or Mickey, as he was known, are revealed in a new 10-episode podcast by the investigative journalist Trevor Aaronson. Drawing on hours of undercover FBI recordings, along with internal FBI reports and interviews Aaronson conducted with genuine racial justice protest leaders, Alphabet Boys pieces together how Windecker inveigled himself into Black Lives Matter from May 2020.


Windecker, who the FBI paid $20,000 to spy on the activists, stood out from the crowd. He was white, while most protesters in Denver were African American, and dressed in military fatigues. He drove an ostentatious silver hearse with a boot filled with AR-15-style semi-automatic rifles and other firearms.

Despite his glaring profile, Windecker managed to convince activists that he was committed to the struggle for racial justice and could help them cope with volatility on the streets. He bragged about having served with the French Foreign Legion and the Kurdish Peshmerga.

As 2020’s long hot summer of protests deepened, Windecker became more prominent in the Denver scene. He also became more proactive in his advice, encouraging activists to consider taking the protests to the next level.

He told one Black Lives Matter leader: “I can teach you how to shoot a gun, to hand-to-hand combat, all the way up to like blowing up fucking buildings and guerrilla warfare tactics and sabotage.”

Audio clippings from the undercover recordings obtained by Aaronson reveal what Windecker then went on to ask the activist: “How extreme do you want it to go? Do you want to learn to shoot a gun and throw someone around, or do you want to go all the way uptown? If that’s what you want to do, I can make it happen.”

The podcast reports that Windecker went on to give an activist $1,500 to buy a gun for him, which led to the individual being arrested on weapons charges. Aaronson also alleges that the informant helped to organize a series of demonstrations in August 2020 that led to violent assaults on police stations.

Windecker denied being an FBI informant, but when Aaronson told him about the recordings he fell silent.

Congressman Jordan and his Republican team have taken to calling their “weaponization” subcommittee “the new Church committee”. The reference is to the post-Watergate 1970s investigation led by the Democratic senator Frank Church into the rogue behaviour and abuses of power by the FBI and other federal agencies.
 
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If I remember correctly it's already a matter of public record that were 100+ undercover agents there. At least from what I recall from a Jimmy Dore episode.



I guess it depends on what you mean by violent. Violent against property or people? If we're just talking violence against people, then yea there really wasn't much of that going on.

With that said, to the extent that there were violent protestors there who were legit Trump supporters... I say...

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Well at least you're honest, unlike [MENTION=10908]dannno[/MENTION].
 
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