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Ron Paul's extreme domestic policies would impoverish many

kenc9

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This writer needs to be better informed so comment over there and set him straight. http://media.www.thetriangle.org/me...ies.Would.Impoverish.Many-3091476-page2.shtml

Paul's views would be very damaging to the poorest and most needy in society. This was most recently shown in his vote against sending federal aid to the victims of Hurricane Katrina, and by blaming the victims his views are frighteningly uncompassionate.

Ron Paul might reverse Bush's failed foreign policy, but his domestic policy would go ever further than Bush, and do more damage to the people that need the most help.

Paul's views are great for big corporations and the extremely wealthy, but for the rest of us his policies would completely eliminate the possibility for upward social mobility and further increase the divide between the rich and the poor by making basic services like healthcare completely out of the reach.
 
This writer needs to be better informed so comment over there and set him straight. http://media.www.thetriangle.org/me...ies.Would.Impoverish.Many-3091476-page2.shtml

Paul's views would be very damaging to the poorest and most needy in society. This was most recently shown in his vote against sending federal aid to the victims of Hurricane Katrina, and by blaming the victims his views are frighteningly uncompassionate.

Ron Paul might reverse Bush's failed foreign policy, but his domestic policy would go ever further than Bush, and do more damage to the people that need the most help.

Paul's views are great for big corporations and the extremely wealthy, but for the rest of us his policies would completely eliminate the possibility for upward social mobility and further increase the divide between the rich and the poor by making basic services like healthcare completely out of the reach.


Expect a lot more of this from the left as Paul gains momentum.
 
Yep, this is a true socialistic point of view.. It's the #1 argument they try to use.. They make it out as if libertarians would let people die in the street.
 
Yep, this is a true socialistic point of view.. It's the #1 argument they try to use.. They make it out as if libertarians would let people die in the street.

I agree it is like when RP ends the Education Department, there thinking the schools will just have no leadership or direction while forgetting about the State Education and County Departments and the school boards and school Principles and Councilors and even the PTA.

The Feds just tie the hands of local government and besides the Feds have failed the schools.
 
A lazy and jealous liberal who wants the government to take care of him from cradle to grave wrote this. Ron Paul is the one who has loyal grassroots support from ordinary people. Hillary and Giuiliani have the backing from the elites and extremely wealthy max donors. Ron Paul is the doctor who took care of people even when they couldn't pay. I think he voted to ban federal funding for gay adoptions, not ban gay adoptions. Not sure when Ron Paul blamed the victims of Katrina and he didn't even put a quote from Ron Paul saying anything to this effect. This article is a joke!
 
I read that article about an hour ago...then commented on the article...and my comments have not been posted....typical.
 
I spent some time replying to this, and they didn't post my response either.

Nice spin job, it would have almost been convincing if I didn't know all the facts. So, I guess we'll start at the top of your argument.

You said he voted to "ban adoption for same-sex couples". I would imagine you are talking about H.AMDT.356 to HR2587: an amendment to PROHIBIT ANY FUNDING for the joint adoption of a child between individuals who are not related by blood or marriage. It was the funding he was in opposition to, not the action. He has a consitent voting record against federal funding for anything not covered in the constitution.

Please quote your source concerning same sex marriage, because in July of 2006, he voted no on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage. He has come out quite often saying that marriage is a religious issue, not a federal issue, and that if any governmental body wants to take on the issue at all that it is up to the state.

As far as the FDA, I am not sure what to replace it with, but I am in agreement with him that alot of these federal agencies have to go. If you have every had to deal with any of them, you know how unorganized, ineffective, and bureaucratic they are. We can do better for cheaper. Why is it that when companies become ineffective, they have to streamline, yet our government just goes more in debt over them and makes them bigger? Something has to be done, not just at the FDA, but at every government agency. I do not agree on your assessment on why the FDA is ineffective. It is ineffective because it is part of the federal bureacracy, has no competition, and no motivating factor to become effective. Companies streamline and become effective because if they don't, they go out of business.

Exactly what is the function of the Department of Education that you feel we cannot live without? I have several friends and family members who teach at elementary/high school levels, and 4/5 of them say they could be better educators without it. The other one said he wasn't sure, and he would have to think about it. If you get rid of the department of education, the state and local governments then handle the schools. The quality of education at the schools could then be more effectively controlled and would be answering to the population they are serving as far as if they are meeting their education goals or not. This also gets rid of the bureacracy needed to channel money to the federal level, have the feds decide if the schools are meeting the goals they defined, and redistribute the tax dollars; which would lead to more money being used to educate children, and less money used to distrubute money to educate children. I see no downside to this, sorry.

"With almost 80 percent of the population saying they support higher taxes for a government-sponsored healthcare program" - Please list your source, and the exact polling questions asked. Maybe 80% support some kind of a government healthcare program, but the extent of that program and the taxes involved are arguable at that 80% level.

As far as his Katrina vote, please read http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul275.html for his own response.

As far as your conclusion paragraph, it has nothing to do with the rest of the article. You spend the whole article arguing about gay rights, the FDA, Dept. of Education, Katrina. Then you end it saying it's great for big corporations, but never explain anything about his monetary policies or how you came to this conclusion.

So, I guess you get an F for this assignment. Lots of hyperbole, statistics with no sources, and a conclusion that doesn't match the arguement. Please try again soon.
 
Don't bother writing the author. You'll be shouting at a wall. Use the comments to refute his points.
 
Don't bother writing the author. You'll be shouting at a wall. Use the comments to refute his points.

Thats the problem. We did use the comments, and then you get a message saying that your response will be listed as soon as it's approved. I think I responded about 2 hours ago, and so far, not one response has been approved.
 
The sound bite answer that needs to get out is this is a state issue. The federal gov't only makes these issues worse. State understand the issues the people face far better than any buerocrat in washington. If the federal gov't was smaller and less taxing, states would have MORE money to do innovative things.
 
The sound bite answer that needs to get out is this is a state issue. The federal gov't only makes these issues worse. State understand the issues the people face far better than any buerocrat in washington. If the federal gov't was smaller and less taxing, states would have MORE money to do innovative things.

Where "innovative" includes their own socialistic policies that they can then tax THEMSELVES for, not tax me federally and print money to make up what isn't raised in taxes.
 
He's obviously an extreme liberal/socialist and I think you're wasting time trying to set him straight or convert him. Go out and work on people who are actually receptive to the message of freedom!
 
Trashing? Oh, brilliant. Man, can't we do something WITHOUT be ignoramuses?

I meant the author and his lack of research and obvious liberal bias. They really shredded him on his lack of understanding! Maybe we shouldn't comment on factually incorrect articles and just let these guys go off on Ron Paul unchecked. Brilliant!
 
I meant the author and his lack of research and obvious liberal bias. They really shredded him on his lack of understanding! Maybe we shouldn't comment on factually incorrect articles and just let these guys go off on Ron Paul unchecked. Brilliant!

You said trashed, not "wow, look 100 reasonable, intelligent, informed and respectful comments already".
 
You said trashed, not "wow, look 100 reasonable, intelligent, informed and respectful comments already".

Yes. Trashed the article and the author's ignorance. Nothing wrong with that when he was spouting off blantant lies!
 
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