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First they convinced a critical mass of people to breathe their own exhaust for a year and a half. Then they convinced a critical mass of teenagers to cut off their tits.
But don't worry, everyone, they totally won't convince women to kill their children. 'Cause apparently they draw a line for what self-harm they'll convince people to do.
I'm not sure how a guy who is supposed to be critical of the vaccination situation would be even capable of thinking that.
I think this clip may be out of context, I'm waiting to read more about it.
I agree with his position. Tax payer money, fed or state, should not be involved. If a person wishes an abortion, which is dreadfully wrong, let it be out of their own pocket, not mine, or your tax dollars from another state.
It seems every single issue one can think of becomes politicized, and as most should know by now, one cannot legislate morality.
RFK Jr.: "We shouldn't have government involved."
Obviously, I don't support RFK's view here and neither does the SCOTUS. But for some reason, we all expect any third party candidate to be absolutely in line with every position we hold, while we make every concession for major party candidates. It's like Stockholm syndrome.
And while we're letting the likes of Swordsmyth tell us when to let the perfect be the enemy of the good, and when not to, Jab Daddy Trump and Winter of Severe Illness and Death Biden are getting away with murdering adults wholesale by tag team.
So why are the politicians staking out the extreme positions?
Most Americans share my view. They want restrictions on abortion but for the procedure to remain legal under certain circumstances.
I'm pretty close to that view myself. In the law, there's a way to handle exception cases. It's called prosecutorial discretion. So, you set the state law for the majority of instances and allow for prosecutors to decide when and if to prosecute. If the prosecutor is too lenient for the local public, they can have the prosecutor removed. If the prosecutor goes too far to try to punish, a jury can weigh in. (And if it happens too often for the local public, they can have the DA removed) Of course, the voting public only hears about the law and not the enforcement mechanisms of the law.
For my state, I'd prefer allowing all contraception, including the Plan B. Then, providing a 2-week grace period after the woman is aware of the pregnancy - anything after that and they're subject to prosecution. Then, let the DA's decide which cases to bring. The woman and the doctor both have an incentive to not terminate after the grace period unless they have some sort of reasonable defense to murder. It's still not perfect, but nothing is.
I always say that if you've come to your conclusion on this topic easily, you haven't thought about it long enough.
Explain to me why I personally should pay for other peoples Plan B, contraception and abortion, when I did not participate, nor was it was my decision to participate, in the sexual act?
In the same sentence he said "Leave it to the states" and then he said 'Leave it to the woman...don't have the government involved"...but the states are government. I don't think he thought that one through.
Under English common law abortion was legal until the "quickening" which is when a woman can feel the baby move which is about 14 weeks. After that it was illegal. I can live with that. I don't believe in "rape / incest" exceptions because that's based on nothing but emotion. You wouldn't allow the toddler of a rapist to be murdered would you? I do accept a mother's life, and possibly physical health exception.
Here's the funny thing. Most Americans share my view. They want restrictions on abortion but for the procedure to remain legal under certain circumstances.
Even liberal NPR had to admit that.
So why are the politicians staking out the extreme positions?
It's over for him. Fringe candidate now.
Any chance of him capturing a meaningful amount of Trump or Never Trump red staters is done.
Any chance of him capturing blue state Catholics which was his uncle's base is done.
He won't get over 10%.
- As president, Trump threatened to veto, but instead and without hesitation, signed a $1.3 Trillion 2018 Omnibus providing:
- $500 Million to Planned Parenthood.
- $1.371 Billion for Contributions to International Organizations
- $51 Million to promote International Family Planning
- $7 Million promoting International Conservation
- $10 Million for UN Environmental Programs
- Internal Revenue Service: Despite the administration’s attempts to slash its budget, the
Omni-Bus grants $11.431 Billion to the nation’s tax collectors, a $196 million year-to-year
increase and $456 Million more than Trump requested.
- Arts: Federal funding for the arts goes up, despite GOP attempts to slash it. The National
Endowments for the Arts and Humanities will see funding climb to $152.8 Million each, a $3
Million increase over the last fiscal year. The National Gallery of Art gets $165.9 Million, a $1.04
Million jump in funding. The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts will receive $40.5
Million, which is $4 Million more than the last fiscal year.
- $12 Million for Scholarships for Lebanon
- $20 Million for Middle East Partnership Initiative Scholarship Program
- $12 Million in military funding for Vietnam
- $15 Million in Developmental assistance to China
- $10 Million for Women LEOs in Afghanistan
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?477303-Donald-Trump-On-The-Record
Because that particular private health care plan somehow manages to do that for other customers and still offer you the most for your money.
Explain to me why I personally should pay for other peoples Plan B, contraception and abortion, when I did not participate, nor was it was my decision to participate, in the sexual act?