Retail to install body cameras

[Pauls' Revere]

ffs we're becoming more and more subservient to big bro with each passing day. SMDH. or how about one of those robotic security robots tht cruise the malls.



https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/tj-maxx-store-workers-wearing-111004996.html

Hourly retail security workers are now wearing police-like body cameras at major stores.

Retail giant TJX, the parent of TJ Maxx, Marshalls and HomeGoods, said it’s equipping some store employees with body cameras to thwart shoplifting and keep customers and employees safe.

TJX finance chief John Klinger disclosed the body-camera initiative on an earnings call last month. “It’s almost like a de-escalation, where people are less likely to do something when they’re being videotaped,” he said.

TJX isn’t alone. In a survey of major chains by the National Retail Federation last year, 35% of US retailers said they were researching body cameras for employees. The manufacturer of Taser devices and other security companies are now designing and marketing body cameras specifically for retail workers.

 

[jmdrake]

ffs we're becoming more and more subservient to big bro with each passing day. SMDH. or how about one of those robotic security robots tht cruise the malls.



https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/tj-maxx-store-workers-wearing-111004996.html

Hourly retail security workers are now wearing police-like body cameras at major stores.

Retail giant TJX, the parent of TJ Maxx, Marshalls and HomeGoods, said it’s equipping some store employees with body cameras to thwart shoplifting and keep customers and employees safe.

TJX finance chief John Klinger disclosed the body-camera initiative on an earnings call last month. “It’s almost like a de-escalation, where people are less likely to do something when they’re being videotaped,” he said.

TJX isn’t alone. In a survey of major chains by the National Retail Federation last year, 35% of US retailers said they were researching body cameras for employees. The manufacturer of Taser devices and other security companies are now designing and marketing body cameras specifically for retail workers.

Meh. Considering the world we live in private security having body cameras makes sense.

https://www.wkrn.com/news/i-cant-br...ned-by-broadway-bar-security-caught-on-video/

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WKRN) — “I can’t breathe.” Some of the last words captured on video before a Smyrna man died at a popular downtown bar.

Dallas “DJ” Barrett was last seen alive in the video taken back on August 16. He died after he was held down by security guards at Dierks Bentley’s Whiskey Row.

RELATED:
Investigation underway after man dies at rooftop bar on Broadway
A witness recorded nearly four minutes of the incident after she said a number of security guards had already held Barrett down for at least five minutes.

“He said he couldn’t breathe, you can hear him in the video say he couldn’t breathe,” the witness who didn’t want to be identified told News 2.

However, five security guards continued to hold Barrett down, she said, as he was subdued and not fighting.

“You can see DJ smacking the ground telling him to get up. He’s like okay, that’s enough. Okay stop,” she explained.

VIDEO:
DJ’s final words: “I can’t breathe”
The witness said a security guard tried to stop her from recording, telling her he can breathe. An interaction was captured on the video.

“He had five people on his back and they just laid there on him. They laid on him. He asked them to get up, he said he couldn’t breathe. They laid on him so he started fighting to get up. He couldn’t breathe, so at this point, this man is fighting for his life,” she said.

It was a fight Barrett ultimately lost.

“I’m so sorry for his mother. I don’t think he deserved it, it was so sad. I don’t even know how to describe it. I never watched anyone take their last breath.”

The video is too hard for Barret’s best friend to watch. Bradyn Anderson was beside Barrett, also detained by security on the ground that night.
​

Edit: And if there is ever a place where there is "no expectation of privacy" it's in somebody else's business. Most businesses today have multiple security cameras. Even small businesses. I've installed them before. It's when the government starts "encouraging" people to share their private security camera feeds with them that this becomes Big Brother. And....that's happening.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Considering the world we live in private security having body cameras makes sense.

I agree. There are or can be bad things about recorded video "surveillance", but there are or can be good things about it, too.

By their nature, interactions between cops (or private security personnel) and others have a higher than usual potential for interpersonal violence. Recording those interactions makes sense. Requiring cops to wear bodycams has been an enormous boon for exposing police abuse - and it even protects cops who are not abusive from false allegations.

As for this statement (bold emphasis added):

TJX finance chief John Klinger disclosed the body-camera initiative on an earnings call last month. “It’s almost like a de-escalation, where people are less likely to do something when they’re being videotaped,” he said.

The problem with this is that it only works that way if wrongdoers are actually prosecuted and punished. When they are given slaps on the wrist or never even charged to begin with - which has become alarmingly common in "social justice" venues - there is no incentive to care about such evidence. After all, if there are unlikely to be any significant consequences (to oneself) for one's wrongdoing, why should one be deterred from doing wrong? Thus, unless and until that changes, I doubt this "body camera initiative" will make much if any difference in such venues.

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

Meh. Considering the world we live in private security having body cameras makes sense.

https://www.wkrn.com/news/i-cant-br...ned-by-broadway-bar-security-caught-on-video/

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WKRN) — “I can’t breathe.” Some of the last words captured on video before a Smyrna man died at a popular downtown bar.

Dallas “DJ” Barrett was last seen alive in the video taken back on August 16. He died after he was held down by security guards at Dierks Bentley’s Whiskey Row.

RELATED:
Investigation underway after man dies at rooftop bar on Broadway
A witness recorded nearly four minutes of the incident after she said a number of security guards had already held Barrett down for at least five minutes.

“He said he couldn’t breathe, you can hear him in the video say he couldn’t breathe,” the witness who didn’t want to be identified told News 2.

However, five security guards continued to hold Barrett down, she said, as he was subdued and not fighting.

“You can see DJ smacking the ground telling him to get up. He’s like okay, that’s enough. Okay stop,” she explained.

VIDEO:
DJ’s final words: “I can’t breathe”
The witness said a security guard tried to stop her from recording, telling her he can breathe. An interaction was captured on the video.

“He had five people on his back and they just laid there on him. They laid on him. He asked them to get up, he said he couldn’t breathe. They laid on him so he started fighting to get up. He couldn’t breathe, so at this point, this man is fighting for his life,” she said.

It was a fight Barrett ultimately lost.

“I’m so sorry for his mother. I don’t think he deserved it, it was so sad. I don’t even know how to describe it. I never watched anyone take their last breath.”

The video is too hard for Barret’s best friend to watch. Bradyn Anderson was beside Barrett, also detained by security on the ground that night.
​

Edit: And if there is ever a place where there is "no expectation of privacy" it's in somebody else's business. Most businesses today have multiple security cameras. Even small businesses. I've installed them before. It's when the government starts "encouraging" people to share their private security camera feeds with them that this becomes Big Brother. And....that's happening.

What about when government mandates or subpoenas your private security footage?
Ever wonder why no surveillance camera's in nursing homes?

 

[sparebulb]

I don't like the surveillance state, but this makes sense.

 

[jmdrake]

What about when government mandates or subpoenas your private security footage?
Ever wonder why no surveillance camera's in nursing homes?

You mean like the police officer who turned his body camera off before accidentally locking himself in the back of his squad car with a flirty female detainee?

https://www.kget.com/news/state-new...EGO (KSWB) — The,to a county detention center.

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

You mean like the police officer who turned his body camera off before accidentally locking himself in the back of his squad car with a flirty female detainee?

https://www.kget.com/news/state-new...EGO (KSWB) — The,to a county detention center.

No, I mean like you purchase and install surveillance cameras for your own reasons and some judge or law enforcement demand you turn over your footage to them. Your private footage that you paid for.

 

[Occam's Banana]

No, I mean like you purchase and install surveillance cameras for your own reasons and some judge or law enforcement demand you turn over your footage to them. Your private footage that you paid for.

If they have a warrant issued upon (genuine) probable cause, then there is no problem.

If they don't have such a warrant, then that is the problem (not the existence or use of cameras and footage, if any).

 

[oyarde]

No, I mean like you purchase and install surveillance cameras for your own reasons and some judge or law enforcement demand you turn over your footage to them. Your private footage that you paid for.

if ave warrant you can say equipment wasnt operational , if no warrant just say no.

 

[sparebulb]

if ave warrant you can say equipment wast operational , if no warrant just say no.

Oyarde, reading your post is like listening to a bad cell phone signal.

Or are you typing in cockney?

 

[oyarde]

Oyarde, reading your post is like listening to a bad cell phone signal.

Or are you typing in cockney?

Getting lazy in my old age

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Meh. Considering the world we live in private security having body cameras makes sense.

https://www.wkrn.com/news/i-cant-br...ned-by-broadway-bar-security-caught-on-video/

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WKRN) — “I can’t breathe.” Some of the last words captured on video before a Smyrna man died at a popular downtown bar.

Dallas “DJ” Barrett was last seen alive in the video taken back on August 16. He died after he was held down by security guards at Dierks Bentley’s Whiskey Row.

RELATED:
Investigation underway after man dies at rooftop bar on Broadway
A witness recorded nearly four minutes of the incident after she said a number of security guards had already held Barrett down for at least five minutes.

“He said he couldn’t breathe, you can hear him in the video say he couldn’t breathe,” the witness who didn’t want to be identified told News 2.

However, five security guards continued to hold Barrett down, she said, as he was subdued and not fighting.

“You can see DJ smacking the ground telling him to get up. He’s like okay, that’s enough. Okay stop,” she explained.

VIDEO:
DJ’s final words: “I can’t breathe”
The witness said a security guard tried to stop her from recording, telling her he can breathe. An interaction was captured on the video.

“He had five people on his back and they just laid there on him. They laid on him. He asked them to get up, he said he couldn’t breathe. They laid on him so he started fighting to get up. He couldn’t breathe, so at this point, this man is fighting for his life,” she said.

It was a fight Barrett ultimately lost.

“I’m so sorry for his mother. I don’t think he deserved it, it was so sad. I don’t even know how to describe it. I never watched anyone take their last breath.”

The video is too hard for Barret’s best friend to watch. Bradyn Anderson was beside Barrett, also detained by security on the ground that night.
​

Edit: And if there is ever a place where there is "no expectation of privacy" it's in somebody else's business. Most businesses today have multiple security cameras. Even small businesses. I've installed them before. It's when the government starts "encouraging" people to share their private security camera feeds with them that this becomes Big Brother. And....that's happening.

I see your point and it works only when your allowed to film police. Some states you can't or at least you must stay a certain distance away as to "not interfere". Some departments have cops serve to circle the suspect when down and block bystanders from catching vids. Idk, it's a screwed-up thing for sure but as B. Franklin said those who want more security and safety for freedom and liberty deserve neither.

 

[jmdrake]

I see your point and it works only when your allowed to film police. Some states you can't or at least you must stay a certain distance away as to "not interfere". Some departments have cops serve to circle the suspect when down and block bystanders from catching vids. Idk, it's a screwed-up thing for sure but as B. Franklin said those who want more security and safety for freedom and liberty deserve neither.

Okay. But we're talking about private security here. So no laws about filming or not filming the police apply right? I get the overall uneasiness. I'm not a fan of surveillance tech, cameras and GPS trackers etc. But then again I know I need to install a GPS tracker on our log splitter because our last one got stolen and I may need a camera as well. (@Anti Federalist, this is most likely a case of white meth heads taking things from black people). And when I thought my 86 year old dad was lost at my son's college graduation at the University Of Chicago and he wasn't answering his phone I was ticked at myself for not getting his iPhone paired up with one of my sons' iPhone so we could use the "Find My Phone" feature....but he was okay. (Safe inside the wrong venue when it was raining like Noah's day and the graduation we were at was outside. God is good!)

But I digress. Yeah...surveillance tech is a double edged sword. Just look at P. Diddy got busted YEARS late on surveillance video of him beating his then girlfriend up and down a hotel hallway. Like it or not, it's already here. So act like you're always on camera because you probably are. If something goes down somebody is probably pulling out a cell phone camera. The body cameras simply capture the stuff that happens before things get interesting. On a side note, it should be easier for citizens to demand public surveillance video. Some years ago my cell phone got stolen at the main Nashville public library. I reported it to the librarian. The called the police. The police looked at the footage and could clearly see who stole my phone. But they wouldn't let me see it nor would they describe who stole my phone. Like seriously? I would have been happy just to get my phone back. What was the point of the cops even looking at the footage? I guess I could have filed something and pressed the issue but I was just like "Screw it."

 

[jmdrake]

No, I mean like you purchase and install surveillance cameras for your own reasons and some judge or law enforcement demand you turn over your footage to them. Your private footage that you paid for.

Oh. In that case do what the police do. Claim your camera "malfunctioned" right at the time that they want. But yeah, that's a problem. But in the case of Afroman, his security cameras busted the police.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Okay. But we're talking about private security here. So no laws about filming or not filming the police apply right? I get the overall uneasiness. I'm not a fan of surveillance tech, cameras and GPS trackers etc. But then again I know I need to install a GPS tracker on our log splitter because our last one got stolen and I may need a camera as well. (@Anti Federalist, this is most likely a case of white meth heads taking things from black people). And when I thought my 86 year old dad was lost at my son's college graduation at the University Of Chicago and he wasn't answering his phone I was ticked at myself for not getting his iPhone paired up with one of my sons' iPhone so we could use the "Find My Phone" feature....but he was okay. (Safe inside the wrong venue when it was raining like Noah's day and the graduation we were at was outside. God is good!)

But I digress. Yeah...surveillance tech is a double edged sword. Just look at P. Diddy got busted YEARS late on surveillance video of him beating his then girlfriend up and down a hotel hallway. Like it or not, it's already here. So act like you're always on camera because you probably are. If something goes down somebody is probably pulling out a cell phone camera. The body cameras simply capture the stuff that happens before things get interesting. On a side note, it should be easier for citizens to demand public surveillance video. Some years ago my cell phone got stolen at the main Nashville public library. I reported it to the librarian. The called the police. The police looked at the footage and could clearly see who stole my phone. But they wouldn't let me see it nor would they describe who stole my phone. Like seriously? I would have been happy just to get my phone back. What was the point of the cops even looking at the footage? I guess I could have filed something and pressed the issue but I was just like "Screw it."

There has to be a line somewhere and I feel we are getting close to that line. Others may disagree or hell believe we already crossed the Rubicon on that. It irk me that now we use retail employees to video shoppers. I find it disturbing to sy the least. For myself, it aligns with the mentality of when the police ask if you see something say something. Turns us all into ancillary cops and doing their work for them. When will we ALL be wearing these?

 

[jmdrake]

There has to be a line somewhere and I feel we are getting close to that line. Others may disagree or hell believe we already crossed the Rubicon on that. It irk me that now we use retail employees to video shoppers. I find it disturbing to sy the least. For myself, it aligns with the mentality of when the police ask if you see something say something. Turns us all into ancillary cops and doing their work for them. When will we ALL be wearing these?

When Apple finally comes out with the "eye phone."



Seriously, if Google Glass hadn't flopped people would already be walking security cameras.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

When Apple finally comes out with the "eye phone."



Seriously, if Google Glass hadn't flopped people would already be walking security cameras.

Fantastic! and yes, your right.